[Japan News] Japan’s Liberal Democratic for National Loli Ban = “Anime Harms Children”
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    Exclamation Japan’s Liberal Democratic for National Loli Ban = “Anime Harms Children”



    Japan’s Liberal Democratic Party is set on passing a bill which would ban all loli material as child pornography, saying it promotes crimes against children.

    The law as it stands strictly prohibits making and distributing (photographic) child pornography, but “simple possession” is not criminalised (except in Kyoto, which recently passed its own local ban).

    The latest effort to pass a ban is encountering difficulties because the LDP and their Komeito stooges want to explicitly include anime and manga in the definition of what can constitute “child pornography,” whilst the ruling DPJ opposes this.

    The LDP and Komeito both assert that such anime and manga promote victimisation of children and so should be banned, whilst the DPJ oppose any inclusion of 2D material, saying it should be protected on free speech grounds and instead considered culture.

    There is thought to be almost no chance of the two sides agreeing, and the DPJ still control the Diet – although when the Tokyo manga ban was initially proposed, the Tokyo DPJ initially opposed it, only to decide to support it when a reworded and even more extreme draft was submitted a second time.

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    otsukare sama deshita BA-sama, for bringing up this news..
    i wonder how will the LOLI-cons react on this.. xD

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    Heh, I like how it says "democratic party", this does not seem very democratic to me...
    Well, anyways, i dont see how loli are "child (insert word that i beleive should not be said here on OS)".. maybe because i dont watch much of it, but wouldn't that make ALL ecchi that too?
    Although, personally, since im more of a shounen and romance anime watcher, i don't think this will affect me as much, but i am afraid that if they continue passing anime bans, anime itself would be banned as "inappropriate material or something" But this is unfair!! first the over 18 ban and now "child ----" ban!!!1 =3=

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    I think they should propose a bill to ban politics, because it promotes crimes against civil rights. :D

    But in all sincerity, most crimes of that nature usually don't stem from an individual owning material. Usually the individual has a pre-existing imbalance that would cause them to carry out the crime with or without material. (Not fact, just an opinion.)

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    well since they have already banned some of the extreme incest.. i think loli had to be the next one.
    in my opinion child pornography should be banned as it is brings adverse conditions and disturbs ones mind..

    but i am not against loli without graphical, or (photographic) child pornography..and where we not only enjoy the manga but also learn of different experiences or morals. the authors should be capable..of showing in the manga about what is right and what is wrong.


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    I know that some a Japan's law is based on or modeled after American Law. If the Japanes free speech law is anything like america's, and if the Japanese legislative and Judicial systems like ours, even if the is passed, the courts may over turn and throw out the law saying it violates free speech like they did in America. I know, in America, 2d art depictions of children in pornographic art work are NOT considered unprotective speech. While this does mean it can't be completly banned, they are still able to restrict it. I am not saying I am for or against it (although I will admit, it will not bother me if loli anime is no more.)

    PS. I can't believe it is legal to possess child pornography of real children in Japan. Seems a little messed up.

    Also a little amusing that it's the Liberal Democratic party putting this through. I thought conservatives where the one that would want to pass this type of law.
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    That doesnt make sense. Loli is treated as child pornography. Then the same thing is with anime with Ecchi. That doesnt just make sense at all. Before they say that kind of thing, they should have a good proof behind such belief. And I want that proof to see before they say that cause CRIMES always happen not because of influence of virtual but influence and reality and thoughts.



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    I'm not really against the ban of anything loli but I wanna knock down the LDP and Komeito for even insisting to include anime and manga.
    Just because they think that loli are mainly depicted in anime and manga doesn't mean that they should include the ban of anime/manga in itself.

    They should at first at least fix their manga and anime sales to the public since that is what I think cause the mass to complain.

    "Anime harms children"?!?!? such nonsense can only come from Japan's democrats who doesn't judge anime/manga thoroughly.
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    I do not believe anything drawn should be considered child pornography or even incest for that matter after all they are just roles in a story and since they are drawn you can say it is a child looking 20 year old, as long as it isn't based on a real person I think it's fine, and I think they are probably a better outlet for those who have those tastes. I mean it's like someone's nose itches and someone else won't let them scratch it, they can live without scratching it but they're going to go crazy and beat the crap out of the other person so they can scratch.
    By the way I have absolutely no interest in children, in fact most children bug the crap out of me, but I love Lolis, heck my favorite character is Ayu from Kanon.

    Actually I might be misunderstanding something, is the law banning 18+ loli, ecchi loli, or all loli? (no matter I'm against the ban 18+ for others, and ecchi and regular for me)
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    Some of you guys are going off on a tangent and getting all worked up again.
    This happens every time news like this comes up.

    No, they will never ban Anime and Manga, its too integrated into the culture.
    What they want to do is take out the Loli from Anime and Manga.
    "Anime Harms Children" is an a way off translation. You best be trolling.

    Whether 2D loli does or does not harm/distort children's mind is up to the Psychologists, not us.
    If you really do want to see their arguments against loli go do some research.

    The debate is not centered around whether Loli is the same child pornography.
    The main reason child pornography is illegal is because it is/leads to child abuse.
    The main reason why they want to ban loli is because it may also cause or strengthen a psychological disorder (pedophilia) which will in turn lead to child abuse.
    They just want to bunch it with child pornography because its simpler and faster and because both child pornography and loli have the same (very arguable) end effect.

    After all, pedophilia IS a psychological disorder
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynastar1080 View Post
    I know that some a Japan's law is based on or modeled after American Law. If the Japanes free speech law is anything like america's, and if the Japanese legislative and Judicial systems like ours, even if the is passed, the courts may over turn and throw out the law saying it violates free speech like they did in America. I know, in America, 2d art depictions of children in pornographic art work are NOT considered unprotective speech. While this does mean it can't be completly banned, they are still able to restrict it. I am not saying I am for or against it (although I will admit, it will not bother me if loli anime is no more.)

    PS. I can't believe it is legal to possess child pornography of real children in Japan. Seems a little messed up.

    Also a little amusing that it's the Liberal Democratic party putting this through. I thought conservatives where the one that would want to pass this type of law.
    Wait, wait, wait it's child pornography IS legal in Japan, but not loli??? WTF... even though i don't agree with any anime being pornographic isn't that being a little hypocritical?!?!?

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    this again huh... i don't really mind banning it on "PORNOGRAPHIC" materials(h,doujinshi,eroge and etc.) but they shouldn't include animes which means no harm at all and usually depicts loli as pettanko tsundere character. (not a lolicon,Meganekko-moe XD)


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    Personally, I don't believe anything should be illegal if there isn't a clearly defined victim. In the case of drawings and artwork, no one is harmed physically, emotionally, or financially.... so why not just leave people alone?

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    ... the japan government is really starting to act from this.. XD

    if they will make it all illegal THE WHOLE ANIME WORLD WILL BE BORING!!!
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    Loli h,to my memory (i have no idea of the current standards) is already illegal in the U.S and other countries I believe. Ishihara lays his dirty hands off normal anime and manga and we're cool.
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    All the Loli-cons of the world are sweating right about now.

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    oh... more bans... what's next?

    i haven't been to Japan (yet) but i wonder what's the reason in making these kinds of laws that will surely hurt one of their trademarks in the world (well, not P--N but anime and manga). i have heard of "manga-based" and "anime-based" crimes, but i think they should focus on the person who did the crime. maybe make heavier sentences perhaps?

    not all persons have the same look on those kinds of things (i'm honest, i like Japan style 2D, whatever genre it is, be it manga or anime) and i haven't done or felt doing something very similar to what i see.) well, maybe i'm just babbling nonsense right now, but that's what i see...

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    「They probably meant Loli Ecchi Anime Series, or so. There are many good Loli-involved Series that doesn't have Ecchi/Mature in it. But how did Loli became a Child Pornography? I mean, it's just an Anime Series, no harm done.」

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    if Loli = child pornography, I dun wanna know what DBZ is all about...

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    Ok. Done my research on this. LDP and Komeito had done it again. Basically all things related to "Loli" that may "Lead" to the promotion of child abuse and pornography are all going to be banned. It is all right if they specified what are the "Taboo" Loli's but they just made it into a whole. That's one of the reason why DPJ was opposed to it.

    If it is approved, Everything that has any "Loli" in it will be banned. Period. No more "Loli" type characteristics or rather characters will be allowed in Anime and Manga. Meaning characters that exhibit characteristics that are "Loli"- Small, Child Like, Etch. even if the story explains that the character is at the right age (like Working!!), will not be allowed since "It may cause misunderstanding".

    There are other issues involve in the bill that is too absurd that DPJ thinks not appropriate.

    Now personally I'm not into Loli, But I once stated in this forum in a different topic with the same theme that what Komeito and others like him are doing is just plain idiotic. Just tell the truth you damn politicians! You just want to control the Anme/Manga Industry because it actually produces more money for Japan and none of it are making it in your pockets. Geez it's like what they have done to AV Films.
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