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    Default [TUTORIAL] Multiple Encoders

    *This thread is meant to share my knowledge and experience in encoding using many encoders. I'm not an expert so any advice and help would be helpful and much appreciated. I will update this thread when i have something new to share. Be sure to subscribe to this thread for upcoming update.*

    Handbrake Tutorial
    (Those who lurk or a stalker will get this benefit)

    [Updated 0.01 - Revising on video and audio option]
    [Updated 0.02 - Revising on making the output to mp4 easier]
    [Updated 0.03 - Added some important info]
    [Updated 0.04 - Removing the need of external codec info]
    [Updated 0.05 - Added a fact that you can queue multiple video]
    [Updated 0.06 - Added some recommendation and extra info]
    [Updated 0.07 - Posted my version of HB that i use when making this tutorial (9/2/2013)]
    [Updated 0.08 - Updated my HB to latest one, and posted a guide on how to use the new setting (10/2/2013)]
    [Updated 0.09 - Edited the text to make it easier to understand (16/2/2013)]
    [Updated 0.10 - Edited the link for download since HB site is all new now (11/6/2013)]
    [Updated 0.11 - Edited the audio bitrate. Should fix the hissing issue (12/6/2013)]
    [Updated 0.12 - Edited again the audio bitrate. Forgot to differentiate stereo and mono setting (13/6/2013)]
    [Updated 0.13 - Putting my recommendation for video and audio setting (13/6/2013)]
    [Updated 0.14 - added info about MP4 and M4V (1/7/2013)]
    [Updated 0.15 - added little info on reference frames and b-frames (10/7/2013)]
    [Updated 0.16 -Fix the audio setting to use HE-AAC (FDK) since the issue of broken audio (hissing,metallic sounds like) in latest HB update.
    - Putting some remark on the setting (11/7/2014)]
    [Updated 0.17 - Adding step to "Remove/Untick" chapter markers in HB regarding the issue of infinite buffer (24/7/2014)]



    I have put this in my user note for quite awhile and a few know about it, so i think it is time i share it to the public.

    Handbrake, the encoder that can directly turn mkv to mp4. I believe this is what almost all the uploader here want. If you want to know more about handbrake, you can google it and visit their main site.

    Handbrake also can be use to do a mini-encode of your video with a right setting. Basically, you can get a high quality video with a small size, thus saving up space. Sounds good enough isn't?

    What handbrake can do in simple term is basically this :

    MKV --> MKV
    MKV --> MP4
    Any Video Container --> MKV/MP4
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    -READ EVERYTHING CAREFULLY-
    --BECAUSE I REALLY MEAN IT--

    As always, fetch the handbrake installer first. We will be using nightly builds of handbrake for this one as its more updated so less bugs and more updated encoding tools.

    The nightly build version that i use for this tutorial (UPDATED by 11/7/2014) :


    (I don't know if the latest one introduce a new setting or so..but no matter what HB you used, the method is similar, all you need to do is IMPROVISE.)

    Go to this site --> https:/brake.fr/nightly.php
    and fetch the latest windows version of nightly build. Pick the Graphical User Interface (GUI) version not the Command Line Interface (CLI) version.

    If you want to try the CLI go ahead.
    Jokes aside, if you are confident in your programming skill then go ahead use the CLI, but this thread is dedicated for GUI-based handbrake. I can't help any of you in CLI-based HB. Spare my programming skill...

    From my sensei, HB is a standalone GUI and doesn't need to use system codec and .dlls (except system font of course)....so i guess you don't need any external codec. Forgive me for my lack of knowledge in HB.

    Notes from HB itself : (after thoroughly reading)

    HandBrake does not support external encoders. It is not possible to add an encoder to HandBrake at runtime. All the encoder libraries are built in and not dynamically linked/loaded at runtime.
    Moving on~

    THIS SETTING OF MINE IS APPLICABLE TO ANY ENCODER AS LONG IT HAS THE SAME SETTING. IT IS NOT LIMITED TO ONLY HANDBRAKE APP.

    Once installed and run, you will get something like this..

    Spoiler :  


    You will see those 7 tabs below and there is where we will play with our settings.

    1. Select/Click on Source and Open any video you want to encode..there is 3 ways. Feel free to try those other 2 ways later I will be using my Puchimas! video as an example.

    Spoiler :  


    2. Now in picture tab, set anamorphic from "strict" to "none" so that you can freely edit your video resolution here. The crop function at the right is for cropping..well mostly used to remove that black borders like you always see in the movie.

    OS recommended size : 512x288

    Spoiler :  


    3. Now moving on Video filters. I rarely use this, and if one thing, i only use denoise to remove some of those noise-grain like..and thus reducing the file-size and still maintain the quality. I will just dump info i got on for each filters with a link. Read if you want to know more. Reading enriches your brain.


    Spoiler :  


    Feel like trolling? Click "Greyscale" and your video will go back time to the 60's where TV still don't have color.

    4. Ok, moving on to Video tab. Make sure..

    Video Codec : H.264
    Framerate : Same as source


    and pick constant framerate as we want to upload it on OS. Though..it does not matter either it is constant or variable. Your choice~

    There is 2 way of encoding in HB, constant bitrate and average bitrate.
    If you want to use constant bitrate, then use in between 23-25.
    The lower the better but higher file size.

    If you want to use average bitrate, then use in between 300-600.
    The higher the better but higher file size.
    This is similar like bencos. Make sure to tick the, 2-pass encoding and turbo 1st pass.

    If it was me, i prefer using average bitrate as i can predict the filesize at the end.
    My recommended bitrate is 380 - 400, as it give an average video size around 70mb+ for 30 minutes video.

    Spoiler :  


    In the latest build, under frame rate, there is Optimise video option :


    basically this is the simplified version of advanced tab. If you don't want to use the advanced tab setting, this setting here will do everything for you. It pretty much self-explanatory, but i will further explain it.

    Notice the "Use advanced tab instead"?
    Tick the box if you don't want to use this optimise video setting, and proceed to the advanced tab.

    x264 preset (hover on it and info will pop out)

    - Range : Medium to Very Slow
    (Do not choose placebo, it is pointless to make the encode too slow just for a small amount of compression that you may not notice at all)

    - Why : the slower the preset, the better the compression of the video (though it depends on that video itself). Better quality and smaller filesize, but the time to encode increase.


    x264 Tune

    option :

    If anime or cartoon, choose Animation.
    If drama, movie, 3D animation, or live action, choose Film


    I don't know about others, but it is some what self-explanatory again.

    Grain : For grainy video, most probably suit for old film?
    Still Image : For video that use static image, no motion?


    For others i don't know much about it, you can check handbrake guide for further explanation.

    x264 Profile
    you can read about Profile and Level here : H.264/MPEG-4 AVC

    option :

    Profile : High

    Why : The primary profile for broadcast and disc storage applications, particularly for high-definition television applications (for example, this is the profile adopted by the Blu-ray Disc storage format and the DVB HDTV broadcast service).
    -copy and paste from the link-

    Basically, we need it in High Definition profile.


    x264 Level

    option :

    Level : Auto

    Why : I still don't understand the function of this level in x264 yet so auto is the easiest option.

    From the wiki,
    Previously encoded pictures are used by H.264/AVC encoders to provide predictions of the values of samples in other pictures. This allows the encoder to make efficient decisions on the best way to encode a given picture. At the decoder, such pictures are stored in a virtual decoded picture buffer (DPB).

    For example, for an HDTV picture that is 1920 samples wide (PicWidthInMbs = 120) and 1080 samples high (FrameHeightInMbs = 68), a Level 4 decoder has a maximum DPB storage capacity of Floor(32768/(120*68)) = 4 frames (or 8 fields) when encoded with minimal cropping parameter values. Thus, the value 4 is shown in parentheses in the table above in the right column of the row for Level 4 with the frame size 1920×1080.

    and another the extra options,
    i'm sorry i don't know what is the function of it yet..but from what i understand this is where you put other H.264 function. A skill in programming word is actually needed in here, i guess?

    but i think it is okay. This extra option is just optional.

    5. Then, let's move to the next tab at the right, Audio tab.
    Vorbis audio codec will only appear in MKV container mode.
    You can add other audio by pressing "Add" button if your anime is dual-audio.

    HE-AAC is the best codec so far in mp4 mode, so use HE-AAC (FDK).
    As for bitrate,

    Most of the time i will just pick Auto mixdown unless it is more than 2 channel like Blu-ray encode that have 5.1 channel or more. That one need a mixdown to stereo or mono.

    For stereo mixdown,

    96 bit is better for anime like clannad.
    112 bit is normal (RECOMMENDED for all)
    128 bit is better for anime that has tons of action and fast scene.


    although, if want the best go for 128.
    My suggestion for OS?
    Use audio bitrate value -- 112 (it give off average 20mb+ audio file size for 30 minutes video)
    You can choose lower than that. It is up to you.

    For mono mixdown,

    32 bit is better for anime like clannad.
    48 bit is normal (RECOMMENDED for all)
    64 bit is better for anime that has tons of action and fast scene.


    If want the best go for 64.
    My suggestion for OS?
    Use audio bitrate value -- 48+ (it give off average 10-15mb+ audio file size for 30 minutes video)
    You can choose lower than that. It is up to you.

    The higher it is, more loud and detail the audio.Of course the background sound and OST will sound better, but higher filesize.

    Though be careful of your choice, if the original audio is already bad, choosing higher bitrate, will just make it sound even worse.

    For mixdown, choose mixdown to mono.
    You can choose stereo if you want.
    Mono is one way audio. Stereo is left and right speaker audio..something like that as far as i understand..but it also affect your filesize.

    If your video has 5.1 audio channel or higher, it is better to mixdown the audio to mono to make sure you can properly hear all sound from each channel in mono audio. (Work best if you want to encode FLAC audio)

    and the sample rate, either choose "Auto" or check mediainfo of your video and check the audio samplerate.
    Most of the anime video is 48.

    Spoiler :  


    6. On Subtitle tab, Click "Add".
    You can actually add a numbers of subtitle in your video.
    (Work best if you want to encode your video in MKV container)

    Make sure to click "Burn in" to hard-sub the subtitle onto the video.

    This work best for video with higher resolution..but for low resolution like [email protected] shiny fiesta that i uploaded before the same method cannot be applied..

    If the subtitle is black and white it is ok..but since it is color..burning the sub onto it looks really bad.
    That's why i had to use another way to hard-sub the video instead of just "burn" it.

    Be sure to NOT click "Burn in" if you intended to put a lot of subtitle.
    (If you intend to encode for yourself or sharing with others)

    Spoiler :  


    7. In Chapter tab, usually the Sub-group already provide the chapter in their video, so you can actually skip it, but if you want to add another chapter..use import. Export is use to extract the chapter.


    See those black line in Media Player Classic?
    That is the function of the chapter to tell where is the prologue, opening and such.

    Although for uploading to OS, make sure to UNTICK the creation of chapter markers. It is a known issue if you have chapters in your uploaded video, the OS player can't play it. Infinite loading issue if i were to name one.


    REMEMBER to UNTICK it.

    8. Finally we arrived to the crucial part in encoding in HB, setting the H.264 in the Advanced tab. (If you did tick the "Use Advanced Tab Instead" before in the video tab)

    Usually when you hover to the option, a pop-up balloon appear giving you the info about its function. Therefore i won't explain much in detail about it.

    See the preset at the right?
    Spoiler :  


    For normal preset, it will looks like this and actually enough for normal and casual encoding.
    Spoiler :  


    For High Profile preset, it will looks like this and this is the average encoding quality you can give for your anime, and we will use this preset as a base.
    Spoiler :  


    This is the preset i used for low-end PC
    Spoiler :  


    I will explain certain part,

    Adaptive Direct Mode

    Spatial : recommended for animation
    Temporal : recommended for live action or 3D animation
    Automatic : If you are lazy to determine it..because some story involve both animation and 3D.
    Adaptive Quantization Strength

    By default, it is 1.0, it won't be shown in command line box. It is a good value for action anime which improves the detail of the line use in action.

    For regular anime,
    Make sure the Adaptive Quantization Strength is drag to left until "aq-strength" at the command line box, below the setting show 0.6.
    You can experiment value between 0.6 - 1.0 to see which value is better for your video.

    Subpixel Motion Estimation : (This affect your encoding speed)

    By default, you can use value 7 that actually is enough.
    If you aim for better quality, set it higher..10 is the best choice, and most anime encoder or sub-group use value 10.

    If you feel your PC/laptop can handle it, which it can..just like my netbook

    (prepare for despair...OTL the pain..)

    You can change this setting below to this value. (This affect your encoding speed)

    Reference Frames : 16
    Maximum B-Frames : 8
    Motion Est Range : 32


    Oh yeah the above setting is suitable if you want to make mini-HD video and keep it to yourself.
    If you want to upload the video into OS, make sure..

    Reference Frames : between 3-10
    Maximum B-frames : between 5-8

    and, after all that, in the preset box at the right, click "Add" button below to add your preset for easier configuration later.

    9. Before queue your video, make sure the output setting container is MP4 and click the "web-optimized".
    and be sure to set your destination before that. Make sure it is ".mp4" not ".m4v"
    Although technically, both are the same actually.
    Read about it here --> https://trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/Containers

    and as for another additional info,
    The M4V file format is a video file format developed by Apple and is very close to the MP4 format. The differences are the optional Apple's DRM copy protection, and the treatment of AC3 (Dolby Digital) audio which is not standardized for the MP4 container.(courtesy of wikipedia)
    Spoiler :  


    Do it either manually or go to tools --> options ---> output ---> change to always mp4

    Spoiler :  


    10. Now click "Add to queue" and click "Start" to start encoding with your setting. You can see your queue by clicking "Show queue".

    You can queue multiple video by repeating the same step before pressing "Start". I hope that resolve issue about "HB can't do multiple queue of video".

    If you want to see the preview of your setting before you actually encode the real one, click "Preview".
    Choose at which part you want to see, and how many seconds you want the preview to be.
    Be sure to tick, "use system default player", otherwise it will direct you to VLC player, and if you don't have VLC, error will pop out.


    It will encode your preview with the setting you have set.

    and i will say this again, quoting from my Cyko tutorial,
    If possible in the end of the encoding, your file size SHOULD be below 100MB for 30 minutes video, if you intend to upload it in OS. If it is over 100MB, encode again. It will take a lot of time just to buffer the 100MB video..be wary of someone with slow internet.
    With that, the HB tutorial is finish. Any further questions, feel free to ask. I will try my best to help if and only if you have read everything and has tried to do it by yourself first.

    I won't answer questions that are not related to handbrake or encoding.
    I won't answer stupid questions.
    I won't answer questions that already have the answer in this wall of text i wrote.


    I missed some important point?
    I messed up somewhere?
    Please do tell me. Your help will be much appreciated.
    Please click "Thanks" if you see this post is useful to you. Thank you.

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    upcoming encoding tutorial : (probably)

    - Cyko (DONE)
    - Xmedia recode
    - Bencos (Yes, the new bencos)

    be sure to look forward for it.


    ------

    Version 0.00 - Introducing Cyko and it's component (4/5/2013)
    Version 0.01 - Putting up my Cyko tutorial (12/6/2013)
    Version 0.02 - Fixing up some info (13/6/2013)


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    Spoiler for Cyko Tutorial

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    Version 0.00 - Introducing New Bencos and the trick in using it (7/9/2013)

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    NEW BENCOS TUTORIAL


    Yaaaa..it's been 3 month since i last put my last tutorial on cyko.
    Is it fun and easy to use? Have you able to small encode your video and safe your disk space?
    or perhaps using it to upload it in OS?

    Well if you answer "YES" to all or some of it, then i'm glad.


    Without further delay, today i will teach you guy some trick in using BENCOS. Yes i know there is already a Bencos tutorial here.
    Well, this one is an improvise method in using the Bencos. I take the method in some of this thread and compile it into one easy method that you will see here.
    Take a look here.


    1.Compiled How to Upload Thread
    2.Converting VFR MKV video to AVI ready to encode in Bencos for uploading.

    Oh the second link, if you're a regular member, you can't see it. Only uploader and moderator can look into it...but i thought of to put up those link to credit them for the idea.

    so let's start the tutorial shall we?


    PROGRAM NEEDED



    ---TO BE CONTINUE---

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    A Repost? So no more Secrets now? lol It's a good thing you finally manage to Publicized it.

    This is good for Fast Encoding. mkv -> mp4

    HandBrake = The Perfect Excuse when you're lazy to Encode lol.

    At least the Quality is Superb compared to Bencos.

    Bencos = Destroys the Video's Quality.

    Anyways, Good Job FiQ.

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    Why was the previous post taken down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sora Kasugano View Post
    A Repost? So no more Secrets now? lol It's a good thing you finally manage to Publicized it.

    This is good for Fast Encoding. mkv -> mp4

    HandBrake = The Perfect Excuse when you're lazy to Encode lol.

    At least the Quality is Superb compared to Bencos.

    Bencos = Destroys the Video's Quality.

    Anyways, Good Job FiQ.
    LOL thank you~

    but about bencos, i myself can say HB and Bencos is almost similar..well, it just that both of them has it's own pro and con. Bencos has this something that HB can't do for now~

    a little bit tedious method that is.


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    Why was the previous post taken down?

    To make things more proper and for something that i will done later in the future. I have some plan, but i need motivation to execute it~
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    FiQ, if you have some time to spare (I don't think you have though since you're pretty busy with your studies) , do you mind if I ask you a microsoft word version of this tutorial?

    Pretty please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zemotion9 View Post
    FiQ, if you have some time to spare (I don't think you have though since you're pretty busy with your studies) , do you mind if I ask you a microsoft word version of this tutorial?

    Pretty please.

    I will look into it.
    Though it will not take a lot of time because it is just simply a copy and paste..and adding picture.
    It just that it will with too many code
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enma Ai View Post
    what if your video is in already avi. or mp4 format.. which number to continue from your guide?
    That should not be a problem.
    Follow from step 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enma Ai View Post
    so basically after handbrake no need to put in bencos?
    Bencos purpose is to convert your video into mp4 format.
    Handbrake also does the same but with extra setting that you can tweak around.
    As long your video in mp4 format, you can upload it on OS.

    Now to answer your question,
    there is no need to put in bencos as you will be wasting your time..but feel free to do that, If that is what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enma Ai View Post
    so err.. if my video is already in avi format i can just straight upload it????
    Nooo...you baka.
    Did you even read what i wrote?

    As long your video in mp4 format, you can upload it on OS.
    OS can only accept mp4 format of a video.
    Therefore if you have any other video format, convert it to mp4 first before upload it here in OS.
    Now i really hope you can finally upload a video in OS.

    Maybe i should really create another tutorial for total beginner. I will come up with something.
    "Tutorial for Dummies"
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiQ5149 View Post

    "Tutorial for Dummies"
    ^ This! XD

    I'll wait for that XMedia Recode tutorial of yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiQ5149 View Post
    Cyko(Sicko??)

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    Handbrake CLI

    I can't retrieve the cli file for some reason. Keeps asking me to log in but with what? lol

    Also, are you sure it's not pronoucned "psycho"?

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    A Repost? So no more Secrets now? lol It's a good thing you finally manage to Publicized it.

    This is good for Fast Encoding. mkv -> mp4

    HandBrake = The Perfect Excuse when you're lazy to Encode lol.

    At least the Quality is Superb compared to Bencos.

    Bencos = Destroys the Video's Quality.

    Anyways, Good Job FiQ.
    Superb for everything but the audio -.-
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    http://i.imgur.com/dX3N3AL.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by badpunraptor View Post
    I can't retrieve the cli file for some reason. Keeps asking me to log in but with what? lol

    Also, are you sure it's not pronoucned "psycho"?


    Superb for everything but the audio -.-

    I will replaced it.
    and it's up to you how you want to pronounce it.
    Both seems fine to me.

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    Audio huh?
    Do mind tell me what it is rather than leaving it unanswered?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiQ5149 View Post

    I will replaced it.
    and it's up to you how you want to pronounce it.
    Both seems fine to me.

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    Audio huh?
    Do mind tell me what it is rather than leaving it unanswered?
    Precisely what I said. Everything about the video is great, but it bothers me that no matter what you do there's a slight hiss or grain in the audio. Not sure why it does that but it's there. Barely noticable...but it's there. It's kind of how I can tell if a vid has been converted with handbrake or something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badpunraptor View Post
    Precisely what I said. Everything about the video is great, but it bothers me that no matter what you do there's a slight hiss or grain in the audio. Not sure why it does that but it's there. Barely noticable...but it's there. It's kind of how I can tell if a vid has been converted with handbrake or something else.
    Thank you. I will look into that.
    I know what you mean..and i think i just know how to fix it.

    Well..let see how it will work in the end.
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    Oh yay. FiQ making another tutorial?

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    I have done updating the cyko tutorial~
    Feel free to read and try.

    Coming soon :

    - Bencos
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiQ5149 View Post
    I have done updating the cyko tutorial~
    Feel free to read and try.

    Coming soon :

    - Bencos
    New bencos tutorial eh? For the new version or just to clear up stuffs in the old versions?

    Also, Handbrake has updated and some stuff has changed. Namely, the audio formats are all different. I dare say that will need an edit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badpunraptor View Post
    New bencos tutorial eh? For the new version or just to clear up stuffs in the old versions?

    Also, Handbrake has updated and some stuff has changed. Namely, the audio formats are all different. I dare say that will need an edit.
    Well new bencos tutorial, there is none and clearing some stuff like you said.

    Oh the new update on HB?
    The audio is exactly the same..what differ is the (avcodec) and the (FDK)..
    uhh..that licensing..

    well i will update it once i got my motivation..i need to make some explanation on what makes them different but does exactly the same thing..
    If anything..choose AAC(avcodec) for audio and if you want to ask about container,
    do the usual mp4 and don't choose av_mp4 yet.

    Thanks for the head up.
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