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    Okay, I know this isn't related to Anime/Japan/Manga News or some sort but this could be a warning to us.

    Right now Many Filehosting websites are doing many changes that could affect Otaku-Streamers.
    Not just Filehosting that doing the changes but many companies are also taking the "advantage" of the situation to take control of the "Copyright Act".

    Ever since Megaupload has been taken down and the staff were arrested, all the other filehosts have been more cautious. They're massively deleting files and accounts, shutting down various features like hot linking, affiliate programs etc. They're even going as far as to banning the entire country from access their sites (namely, US).
    Okay, How this will affect OS? First of all, this will affect mostly the Uploaders on Otaku-Streamers because....

    If those Filehosting website continue to do this, All Uploads on the Otaku-Streamers will keep delaying and delaying until We can't upload anymore.
    There is also some Filehosting websites that only allows original uploaders to download their own files which they have discontinued their services.

    The Last resort is by Torrent if those Filehosting Website keeps changing and trying to prevent their "shutdown".

    Now how can this affect the users of OS?

    Well I asked Jbluey opinion about it and He said "All Anime's/Drama's Uploads will be kept limited". What does this mean? It means that you'll expect some Animes or Drama will NOT be uploaded here anymore. We are also trying to be cautious so that Otaku-Streamers will not be taken down by those "companines".

    Right now Sopa and Pipa are postponed by the US Congress but this just doesn't stop anything at all.

    For me, as an Uploader of Otaku-Streamers since 2009. I just hate what those Filehosting website are doing right now and also I really hate those SOPA/PIPA Bills since I'm 80% positive that other countries will try and copy those laws.
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    Yes, other countries are now "TRYING" to copy just right after we're relieved that SOPA is poseponed indefinitely. We can't relax, can we?

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    This is bad now because everyone is being cautious. Things need to cool down for awhile then things will get back into the normal way of things. Also, there is always a way to do things so if we still have those problems then somehow we will make do. After all, this site ISN'T just for streaming.

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    Gonna start saying goodbye on anime that got licensed already since that most likely those are the titles wont be uploaded

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    I can't believe we're really that affected... Those senators are making me raged right now... But anyways,
    I'll just have to accept the fact that some of my favorite animes/dramas will not be uploaded...

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    When the world revolves around money, this is bound to happen.

    Sharing is carring, just like lending a video to your friend is or making a home cinema night when you bought a good film.
    File sharing for me is the same thing just in a global plan, and they should be happy cause countless peeps wont buy a damn thing if they do not see it first.
    The ones who can buy it will buy it any way no matter if they can get the same thing for free at some random site.
    But that's off-topic now....

    Any way, I hope all this cools down and we get back on with our hours and hours of watching anime here at OS =)

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    really sad about that news! but ! this is not just right! ! and if that happens i will sure ! they not just kill the Web! but also they killed the Computer industry ! well u see ! so many people buy pc so they can surf net and for other something else! so who would buy a pc if u cant use the internet! meaningless right!! well this must stop and! i know so many people will react to this! probably!

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    How this affects os (uploaders and viewers)

    Firstly, with the shutdown of MU all the data (animes) is now inaccessible. So if an uploader was using MU as his download source and didn't finish downloading the animes he'll have to find another source. As an uploader, majority of my animes came from MU sources. This makes the older animes even harder to find because old animes rarely have active seeds on torrent. The shutdown of MU also affected nearly all DDL sites, one of my favorite download site has shutdown as well because all the downloads were MU links; so you can see how this affects uploaders. With these changes uploading will definitely be harder.
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    But SOPA is dead! http://mashable.com/2012/01/20/sopa-...th-pulls-bill/ They will regret with what they have done! I hope torrent will be enough for OS in the mean time.

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    MegaUpload, then FileSonic ~
    so what's next?

    those US Senators are really out of their minds ~
    what, can't they keep their bills on their own country?
    they mess with the freedom of the internet and what? they love to enrage the people around the world?
    and with this, other countries will also copy the same bill ~
    what a bothersome ~ ==

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    Quote Originally Posted by error345 View Post

    Firstly, with the shutdown of MU all the data (animes) is know inaccessible. So if an uploader was using MU as his download source and didn't finish downloading the animes he'll have to find another source. As an uploader, majority of my animes came from MU sources. This makes the older animes even harder to find because old animes rarely have active seeds on torrent. The shutdown of MU also affected nearly all DDL sites, one of my favorite download site has shutdown as well because all the downloads were MU links; so you can see how this affects uploaders. With these changes uploading will definitely be harder.
    Exactly, just when I have older animes to upload, MU went down and my dl links are there ... >.<
    I wonder about torrent coz if there ain't many seeds, the dl speed is slow so it will take time dling them.



    Quote Originally Posted by avich View Post
    Visit filesonic.com
    as an uploader, I've tried dowloading to that site and other dl sites with [file] names ...
    the only problem is the download speed if we are to download there are like half of ur original
    download speed, obvious outcome downloading will be slowed. >.<

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    error345 is right. If MU will permanently fall, it would take the old anime archive with it. So many fansub groups use MU to archive their animes. Thankfully most of the old animes are on OS thanks to our uploaders. If this trend goes on, what we have here on OS might be considered very precious, like holding on to those nostalgic memories that we refuse to let go.

    Our old animes will become like a gold bar in the otaku world.
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    I feel ashamed, knowing it was my countries' higher-ups that caused all this trouble.

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    ....hmm..so it finally posted here in OS, about what happen to other filehosting sites other than megaupload..

    Anime Upload is keep limited huh?

    Oh well, i better be prepared for it.
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    Because the US gov't, as it stands, recognize neither the sovereignty of other nations nor its own people to begin with. Heck, they don't even care for the civil liberties of their own citizens just for the sake of corporatism. They've imposed several wars without permission from the congress. "You don't like us? Boom! Preemptive strike! You're a terrorist." Basically, they've endowed themselves their right to police the world. They view peace as stagnation and will incite anger just to further their motives. Everything that threatens the business portfolio of their lobbyists is essentially evil. They continue to adulterate the very constitution they swore to protect. We live in a dark age - run by lies and deceit. And before you put a copyright over this, lemme just say, FU!

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    Here is a slightly far fetched idea that MAY be considered in the long run and for the sake of keeping anime itself alive.

    There is a website out there on the internet that provides people outside of asian countries with the ability to purchase J-dramas and K-dramas. It's an English website and is accessible to pretty much anyone. It's all legitimate, and done properly. If... and I only say if (and please consider that what I am proposing is by no means EASY nor simple, and would require many legalities, and just as much compromise on the part of those most affected -the admins-.), but if by some chance the administrators were open to exploring and possibly researching the possibility of combining the features of that website (by stabilizing a contract with anime distributors and providing them with an avenue to sell their product to an otherwise unreachable fanbase) and the features of another website known for streaming LEGALLY (which we will only term as CR, which every otaku already knows about.) it's possible to not only provide a way to preserve anime and dramas in a TANGIBLE form (i.e. a disk known as a DVD) but also to allow streaming of said shows.


    It's a matter of HOW one pitches this to the companies one is trying to develop a healthy relationship with. Let's face it. Eventually they WILL find a way to put a wrench in this machine. But if we work around that wrench by possibly establishing a relationship with them that actually gains them more financial value, they may be open to an agreement which not only would benefit OS (because think about it, if you're offering to sell their plushies, keychains, dvd's, posters, on a special section of the site, they make money AND because they're making money, OS won't ever have to put up Ad's which we already figured out everyone hates. Secondly, I myself am one of those people who wants a damn piggybunny plushie and I would hate to have to go 8 hours to Edmonton to hopefully find it. I'm sure other people feel the same way about many cute anime things they can't get unless directly from the source at INSANE prices.) but it would also benefit the viewers (by providing us with actual materials we can watch in 10 or 15 years, because lets face it, pixels and Megabytes don't last forever, and if some system failure occurs, it may get lost forever, but NOT if we have tangible versions of them, and it also gives us a chance to indulge in the REAL otaku experience by providing us with things we can't easily access in the U.S., Canada, Europe.) and it benefits the companies by providing them an internet venue run by English speakers who actually maintain the site already.


    Now some people may call that selling out, but thats a naive point of view. Think about it. To otaku's anime is just as precious as a diary is to a 12 year old girl. If it disappeared one day because someone took it by force, you'd be upset, frustrated, and confused as to how to get it back. Instead of making companies the enemy, use them just like they use the consumers. It's a give and take relationship but consumers have gotten used to being bent over and just taking it. That's NOT how it has to be. There ARE possibilities. And it's EASY to make excuses as to why not even try. Some of those excuses could be due to fear of success, fear of failure, fear of pressure and demand, but guess what. Without success you have failure, without failure you have success. Both come with pressures and demands, and NONE of it is avoidable. So you can either wait for them to come and take you, grab you out of your hiding place on the big internet plains, or you can march up to their gates and say "Hey, I've got a proposal, and you're going to like it. Because it benefits a lot of people. Including you."


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    This is indeed a sad sad age we live in. Unfortunately I can only expect things to get worse before they get better; however that's my cynical side speaking. My normal optimistic self hopes that things will calm down after a while and that the U.S. government will get around to pulling its head out of its... anyway, I guess I can live with missing some anime... for now. It irks me, yes, but sometimes sacrifices have to be made so that we can hold on to what we already have and be able to hold on to whatever we can grab in the future. Normally I'd quote something like "equivalent exchange" or something, but considering SOPA and PIPA were definitely cases of (what was that trope? Oh yes) disproportionate retribution (against Net pirates, yarr) I highly doubt the government fully understands such a simple concept. And as Ghandi said!
    "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
    Except in SOPA/PIPA's case it was more like an eye for an arm, leg, and heart, with C4 and TNT thrown in for good measure.

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    If we were to go legit then worries over this whole mess with sopa wouldn't be an issue. Not to mention we would be directly supporting those who create the content we cherish. So I put in my vote for it to be considered as a serious option. Now to fund such an operation would have to be hammered out when the time comes for it so no need to think on that part now.

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    This is what I'd like to call by the government idiots a 'scare' tactic. As it turns out, SOPA was shelved, PIPA lost it's vast support, but apparently, instead of making these stupid bills that obviously didn't work, Hollywood and other companies honestly don't have to wait. It was the US Supreme Court that issued 20+ arrest warrants and charged each individual in those warrants, in favor of them. It was a behind the back plan to think we won and thought that would be the main force for us to focus on (the bills anyway)

    The reason why I said scare tactic, is simply the fact that if the government targeted MU, the other filesharing places would see that and in fear of their own lives and reputation, would do the same to save their own ass.
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