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howeryu

02-27-2012, 04:56 AM

*Note - I've replaced all swear words that i could find with ****, please tell me if i miss any*
Suggestions:
The following suggestions are backed up with reasons that I hope the Admin (Jim) would understand.
Keep in mind of the following few things before I start the suggestions
A) The server is small – growing and dying at the same time
B) Most people on the servers are ranger (Sniper), GX (Assassin Cross), and Sura (Champions)
C) There is a reason that those 3 are the top class
Ex. Assassins (Emp Breaker)
Ranger (Trapper and MvPer)
Sura (Best Mvper and WoE quick movement + best dmg)

Let the suggestions begin:
1) Change the ASPD formula – I don’t think Jim knows anything about ASPD, but when it comes to ASPD Rangers (snipers), and especially Assassins need them the most.
Why?
Simple – We auto attack – Sniper auto attack to do the most consistent DMG and to Lock MVP, while assassins need ASPD on duel dagger to break.
By making it IMPOSSIBLE (besides from getting buff + donation item) to get to 192 ASPD, I do not know what the Admin is trying to achieve.

By nerfing ASPD formula the Admins have complete fail to realize that they INDIRECTLY made other class stronger than the class that got nerfed, due to the fact that IF we were equal at first (which we wasn’t) now we just lost our equal ground.

Duo dagger has been used to break Emp ever since JRO, why the hell would you nerf what was made to be like that? Now WITH donations and above average items and potions, we get. 189 ASPD - WHICH IS SLOWER THAN BEFORE THE LAST CHANGE OF ASPD. (I had 190 before the change with duo dagger)

What’s worse is the fact that for some ****ing UNKNOWN reason the GM decided to nerf ASPD for 1 more freaking time – For no good reason – and now – duo dagger is stupid.

2) Discard Wise Women – change it so there ISNT a chance to lose both items

Simple reason – SO WE DON’T LOSE OUR MVP CARD – FASPDKMASPLASKLDASIOA:SDASL – Honestly, who the hell added the 3% chance of breaking both? – sigh – most random shit ever – playing 4 years of JRO I never failed to get at least 1 item back (Cards or item) im guessing it’s a custom thing – CHANGE IT FOR GOD SAKE

3) Nerf the class that actually needs nerfing
A) Champ – Asura DMG equation change to overall 75% of the dmg (this is done many times in a lot of mid to high rate server) and nerf body relocation.

- Asura on MvP for 999.999k <- No nerf? What the hell is the admin thinking and doing?
- 1 hit kill MOST class without GR and berries to do it again (A.K.A one man team) ESPECIALLY WHEN RANGERS AND ASSASSINS ARE FORCED TO ****ING BE GLASS CANNONS DUE TO THAT FREAKING ASPD NERF.
- Body relocation with no delay????? And usable in woe? (It was supposed to have a 2 sec delay on it) A lot of high rate server just disabled it for WoE (the only ones I remembered usable was Cart boost and High Jump)

B) Assassins – EDP should not stack with soul link for obvious reasons, with this said – soul linker cannot soul link assassins in town during woe to harass them – need to disable assassin link in pront, but can link everywhere else.

C) Mages are forced to wear Orleans's Gown because they won’t have instant cast even with those OVER POWER AS **** BETA RING. – change it to 180 dex – no jokes it benefits all class – makes woe a lot better and easier for everyone.
The current 190 dex for instant cast requires 2x beta rings with 4 zerom cards and donations.

4) Make the map outside the guild castle PvP maps during woe, and no 3rd job skill allowed. (obvious reasons – many camp at lvl one in the castle with class 3 buff – especially paladins – to **** people over)

5) Get the freaking website up and running (not the control panel)

6) Get more than 1 admin –it’s pointless to have to wait for 3~5 days to see them, so they can fix those bugs.

7) Beta ring OP – make a nerf version of it as a quest so we can be even = =, honestly ( SO MUCH FOR BALANCING THE PLAYERS)
ex – do u know how much more dmg is asura when they have 2x beta rings and 4x mantis cards? It’s insane.

8) EMP – NERF – FFS
What is your god damn point of buffing emps so decent assasins can break it in 2 min and 12 sec with 190 aspd?
It is stupid as hell – back then in JRO I alone can take down a emp with duo daggers in 30 sec. and that was 1x1x1x  with SHIT ITEMS
I don’t understand the reasons of nerfing assassins by SOOOOOOO MUCH?
First – EMP BUFF – we r ****ing useless alone
second – aspd Nerf – we r even more ****ing useless
Third – More aspd nerf – FFS

If anything – WOE SHOULD FOCUS MORE ON DEF – on a lvl 255 server (Avalon RO) it takes me 2.5 sec to break the emp, and 34 sec with decent equipment (no ice pick)

150 str
150 agi
150 vit
150 dex (it doesn’t really help that much – gives 1 dmg ever 3 points? Or 4? I forgot)
83 luk

And that’s how it should be – fast pace defending and attacking – that’s why the last 1 min is the best. Not stay in town for last 2 min because you know you have the castle. Not ****ing 2 min and 14 sec.

9) Endurance on MvP – really?
When all the good card hard boss are done by around 8 champs. Sure – make it harder for other mvp class and favor 1 class pl0x.

10) Traps cant stack together? – what the hell is the point of other traps other than snare trap if you cant put 2 shockwaves on the same cell? Seriously?
and for your info - champions can body relocate into us asura us and then all the traps are gone.
Yes - Body relocate doesnt get effected by traps.

11) WOE times – I'm disappoint that they messed up the WOE times – why not just all castle available for 2 days in 1 week so weak guilds such as Orbs, sentinel and other starting guild can have a ****ing chance – it also stops the leading guild (valk and hentai) leaders to get the god items so easily.

Whatever you guys are doing now is not concerning the west side player like myself (Canada) which is -5 GMT, and this is one of the reason why the server is dying.

Take all these suggestions from a guy who played RO for 9 years of his life.

Also - i seriously hope that this forum can grow in terms of OSRO - so jim bishop and alex can actually know what is going on.

Accelerator

02-27-2012, 07:27 AM

no disrespect to the owner of OS and OSRO but i think you dont take OSRO seriously. come on you make a thread for OSRO but when somebody posted a complain or a question you never get to answer them. i posted a topic here "torrent file dead" i think its almost a month, no reply from the admins. and i agree making a website for OSRO not a control panel so you can post there full client torrent file, installation guide etc. that is if you want OSRO to grow and be acknowledge by other OS members/ RO players.

SpazKaz

02-27-2012, 09:14 AM

howeryu

02-27-2012, 01:22 PM

They are working on a website. http://osro.otaku-streamers.com/index.php

Towards the first poster, I disagree with your entire post.
I'll only add one comment about woe.
I like that EMPs are buffed and take longer to kill. I come from iRO and I have seen many cookie cutter builds for Assassins.
Learn to play with a group. WoE is not completely focused around a Sin running around soloing EMPs in a few seconds to get a castle. I dual client sit in a castle on my Warlock and Bragi Slave. I had a few people walk in, die to my solo man precast and then no one else came back to the castle. My Warlock isn't even built for WoE of PvP...

The smaller guilds need to learn strategy. Going with just purely Sins and breaking is just stupid. Recruit people to play other classes that are needed.
In defense of Orb guild, they do use some strategy. Ex: Gunslinger defense. Works ok till people figure out how to deal with it.

*edit*
Side note, God Item Creation is currently disabled on this server. There are no completed ones, just pieces at the minute.

Blah, let me rephrase it
"Get the website up and running at full" A lot of link isnt working - ex. Vote for points, creation guide, etc.

Also - Once god item is out - only valk and hentai (maybe One piece) will get it.

The website isnt up and running at full - it has a bunch of broken links

Assassins are the main breaker that people should protect while they break emp, and even in IRO assassins alone can break emp in 30 sec normally. Not 2 min and 14 sec.

Right now, if u kill the whole team - they can come back at least 2 times before u break it.

Also - I seriously played RO for 9 years - i know what i mean by assassins are nerfed to the point that its almost useless.
DPS - pvp - Champ > assassin - Woe - Emp > Assassin
ASPD - Champ doesnt need it while assassin are useless without it "breaker needs duo dagger"
Movement - Champ's Body relocation > Assassin Back slide "which is banned in woe <-- that i understand"

I also want to point out that assassin's back slide now has a delay after casting. *it is also a nerf from the admin - for - no reason*

Edit - i also what to point out that - i am the leader of Orb and every strategy in Orb are from me - personally. After the Emp buffed - only assassin's can break - i use to break with LK agi build too, also ive broke with WS and sniper before in JRO tho they take like 5~8 min each but Teamwork make it 20 sec break with 1 assassin - now sigh - assassins are way too nerfed.

Kay - i am literally confused - why in the world cant i edit my own post - and why cant i post? and when i do post why does it disappear after awhile? = =
i literally didnt use any swear word on that post or any rude things
now its just gone...

ANYWHO
I am the leader of Orb - 9 years in RO - i developed all the strategies for orbs.

there is a few things you need to consider
A) Once god item NPC is out - valk + hentai can make it right away.
B) EMP was suppose to be easy to break - emphasize on the def - not spread your member EVERYWHERE FOR ATTACK
C) On JRO (First RO server) my assassin can break in 30 sec (actually 34 sec but w.e - duo desert twilight 3 OS and DW card on each). LK (agi build) 5 min and WS (8~10 min) - right now emp can only be broken by assassins. other will take more than 30 min - seriously last pront woe i have my friend (lvl 175 HW attack a emp for 20 min) and still takes me 2 min + to even break it. (Aka - they did no dmg)
D) im just trying to make sure that this server is doing what every server have to go through - the balancing - and im making sure they r doing it right.
E) Please be serious - YOU may disagree with a lot of what I say - but definitely not all of them
list of your thoughts.
F) By dealing my AntiX u mean Asuraing him right? cause he died about 50 times to asura just like every other class, sigh - stated before - we r forced to build glass cannon - no matter how much resist we have without gr - they can still destroy us - 40k HP <--- funny with gr they can kill us too - easily -
G) right now, every single champ on this server doesnt use Finger Offence <- which is suppose to be the main dmg source for PVP, not asura. They see someone, asura -> pot once body relocate to a safe place within 1 sec and recover full hp + health body relocate in to do the same again.
H) "Learn to play with a group. WoE is not completely focused around a Sin running around soloing EMPs in a few seconds to get a castle. I dual client sit in a castle on my Warlock and Bragi Slave. I had a few people walk in, die to my solo man precast and then no one else came back to the castle. My Warlock isn't even built for WoE of PvP..." - what group is there when we r up against 20+ people with 4 people - and when the server ONLY has maximum of 60 people active. - You make it sound like i DONT know what im doing in WOE - which is 100% not true - also you must be in one piece/hentai - which means u know nothing about small guild - and how WoE is one sided - all castle SHOULD be available for WOE separating Woe 1.0 and 2.0. So the strong guild can not own ALLL the castle.

SpazKaz

02-27-2012, 08:40 PM

Blah, let me rephrase it
"Get the website up and running at full" A lot of link isnt working - ex. Vote for points, creation guide, etc.

Also - Once god item is out - only valk and hentai (maybe One piece) will get it.

The website isnt up and running at full - it has a bunch of broken links

Assassins are the main breaker that people should protect while they break emp, and even in IRO assassins alone can break emp in 30 sec normally. Not 2 min and 14 sec.

Right now, if u kill the whole team - they can come back at least 2 times before u break it.

Also - I seriously played RO for 9 years - i know what i mean by assassins are nerfed to the point that its almost useless.
DPS - pvp - Champ > assassin - Woe - Emp > Assassin
ASPD - Champ doesnt need it while assassin are useless without it "breaker needs duo dagger"
Movement - Champ's Body relocation > Assassin Back slide "which is banned in woe <-- that i understand"

I also want to point out that assassin's back slide now has a delay after casting. *it is also a nerf from the admin - for - no reason*

I believe I mentioned "working on" when I referred to their site.
They are doing what they can and when they can. This isn't an official server where they are paid to do it as a job and have a group of people each doing what needs to be done. I believe that everyone needs to accept and respect the fact that the admin team are human beings with lives, girl friends, jobs, school, responsibilities (uploading and translating anime) and are unable to spend every waking moment dedicating themselves to your entertainment.

I know how iRO mechanics work and how the play style is on those servers. I have played there since the beta days. Quit talking about your 9 years of RO exp. So what? I have been playing for almost 10 years now and I'm not whining like you are. Here I'll reply to each of your listed things in order.

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1) The ASPD crying. The GM Team is working on that. They are tweaking it and working on balancing it.
Getting 192 on a sniper is so easy that it doesn't even require "dedicated" gear. As far as assassins go it isn't terribly hard to get 191~192 aspd, sure it is going to require some specialized gear but that's the life of a double dagger assassin. It however is not impossible.

2) The De-card NPC isn't an official NPC, the small chance to lose your item doesn't really happen all that much and never happens with premium items in other events you can choose to protect what you think is important. As far as losing your precious MVP card is concerned how about being responsible and not slotting it into trash gear? You don't have to slot it right away and it is generally wiser to wait until you have the gear you want to put it in before slotting it. I would kind of expect that someone who has played this game for 9 years wouldn't rush out to slot a MVP card into just anything.

3) I don't see much of a problem with champions most of them die fairly easily unless you're caught completely unprepared (but then hey you kind of deserve it). Inside of WoE I frequently live through guillotine fist, heck I’ve watched several other non tanky classes live through it (without GR or deviling).
http://irowiki.org/wiki/Snap

http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?sk_name=body+relocation&page=skill_db&sk_search=Search

Neither of those references list an after cast delay for Snap, it does however have a delay for using Guillotine fist afterwards which is in there. Also neither list it as blocked during WoE, perhaps you’re wanting the customizations of some other private server rather than mechanics closer to official servers.

EDP and soul link sonic blow is a staple cookie cutter assassin build from official servers, EDP and the assassin soul link stack, have always stacked and there isn’t much reason to take that away from them.

190 DEX is simple to get, it doesn’t require beta tester rings or donation items. Heck you can even get it without needing bless if you really want to. Perhaps you are not considering just how powerful an insta cast wizard actually is. If it was lowered to 180 DEX every wizard with complete trash gear would be walking around with insta cast.

4) I’m not sure you actually considered the ramifications of this suggestion. The only thing this suggestion does is ensure that you won’t be able to enter the castles of any established guild. People will still be able to use 3rd class buffs in WoE. This seems like a very knee jerk reaction to something that personally happened to you.

5) I'd like the site to be finished myself and to vote for it, but I do understand this "it's not their day job".

6) I live in the Central USA -6 GMT, I see plenty of GMs online. Refer to my opening paragraph in this post for more information.

7) My Sura has only one beta ring with 2x Mantis. The other I have different cards in to give me the bonuses I need to MvP with. Asura damage from tossing in two more Mantis rings would raise my damage a little bit but it isn't beneficial for me to run those cards in it. It is also possible that a properly built champion can achieve close to my Asura damage, there is even one in my guild who does just that.

8) I have absolutely no desire to see emps being able to be broken in 2.5 seconds as that just ruins WoE. It doesn’t move the focus more towards defending castles, it moves the focus to everyone playing an assassin and doing ninja breaks the last 2 minutes of WoE. Why not just have WoE last for only 2 minutes at that point?
The increase in breaking time makes it so a guild can actually "defend" their castle. If you are attempting to solo a castle you really shouldn’t expect to accomplish this task with any amount of regularity. This is a multiplayer game not a single player game, maybe try bringing some people to defend the assassin while it tries to break.
About your last 2 minute being the best remark: I completely disagree WoE should not solely be focused on the last 2 minutes making the other 58 minutes inconsequential.

WoE is about fighting for the castle as a group and taking it. Not last minute solo ninja stealing of castles. Lets try and keep the multiplayer in mind especially when dealing with group activities like WoE.

9) Yes really. Rangers being able to flinch lock MVPs and solo almost all of them is stupid and favors a single class. Champions have to deal with Kaupe thus making it hard for them to try and solo also. Having to actually party with people to kill MVPs isn’t a bad things (it’s actually one of the points of the game). I know for a fact that not all of the “good card hard bosses” are done by 8 champions.

10) All I can really say is learn to trap differently. Also don’t stand somewhere that you can easily be kill and your traps won’t go down.
As far as I know, Trap Stacking was an iRO bug that also got fixed.

11) I’ve seen teams of 2 people take and defend a castle I really don’t think it’s all that hard. Maybe try switching up your class combinations?

You realize that easily around 70% of the server population is in the Philippines? I agree that the times for WoE could be adjusted but keep in mind that some of the times will always be inconvenient for someone.

Kay - i am literally confused - why in the world cant i edit my own post - and why cant i post? and when i do post why does it disappear after awhile? = =
i literally didnt use any swear word on that post or any rude things
now its just gone...

ANYWHO
I am the leader of Orb - 9 years in RO - i developed all the strategies for orbs.

there is a few things you need to consider
A) Once god item NPC is out - valk + hentai can make it right away.
B) EMP was suppose to be easy to break - emphasize on the def - not spread your member EVERYWHERE FOR ATTACK
C) On JRO (First RO server) my assassin can break in 30 sec (actually 34 sec but w.e - duo desert twilight 3 OS and DW card on each). LK (agi build) 5 min and WS (8~10 min) - right now emp can only be broken by assassins. other will take more than 30 min - seriously last pront woe i have my friend (lvl 175 HW attack a emp for 20 min) and still takes me 2 min + to even break it. (Aka - they did no dmg)
D) im just trying to make sure that this server is doing what every server have to go through - the balancing - and im making sure they r doing it right.
E) Please be serious - YOU may disagree with a lot of what I say - but definitely not all of them
list of your thoughts.
F) By dealing my AntiX u mean Asuraing him right? cause he died about 50 times to asura just like every other class, sigh - stated before - we r forced to build glass cannon - no matter how much resist we have without gr - they can still destroy us - 40k HP <--- funny with gr they can kill us too - easily -
G) right now, every single champ on this server doesnt use Finger Offence <- which is suppose to be the main dmg source for PVP, not asura. They see someone, asura -> pot once body relocate to a safe place within 1 sec and recover full hp + health body relocate in to do the same again.
H) "Learn to play with a group. WoE is not completely focused around a Sin running around soloing EMPs in a few seconds to get a castle. I dual client sit in a castle on my Warlock and Bragi Slave. I had a few people walk in, die to my solo man precast and then no one else came back to the castle. My Warlock isn't even built for WoE of PvP..." - what group is there when we r up against 20+ people with 4 people - and when the server ONLY has maximum of 60 people active. - You make it sound like i DONT know what im doing in WOE - which is 100% not true - also you must be in one piece/hentai - which means u know nothing about small guild - and how WoE is one sided - all castle SHOULD be available for WOE separating Woe 1.0 and 2.0. So the strong guild can not own ALLL the castle.

Interesting, you keep editing the post over and over.

If you mean AntiX is your gunslinger. You don't need to Asura him to kill him, but it is an easy method to do none the less. There are other ways to deal with Gunslingers, EX: Pneuma

I don't know where you are getting your information from... But I have never seen Monks/Champions/Suras use Finger Offensive as their 'main' damage dealing skill. If you haven't learned anything from the woeing that is going on, apparently Asura does more damage o.O
On iRO my job as a Champion was to sit near the emp and 'Asura' anyone that got near it. Finger Offensive is only good when they are inside Safety Wall.... OMG!!! I GAVE AWAY THE SECRET TO STOPPING ASURA!!!

I am in One Piece. We field at most 6, and I repeat, 6, real live breathing people during WoE.
One Piece knows quite a bit about it being one sided. Everyone used to kick us around in woe, Valk and their Alliance, and Hentai.
Also I come from iRO, I've played in the big guilds and even small guilds. I know how one sided it can be and this server is no where near how one sided an official server gets.

howeryu

02-28-2012, 12:05 AM

1) You sir – must be high – I literally have donation gear on with everything possible. And trust me when I say GX cant make it without good gear and buff. Assassins cross maybe – due to the fact that they get more stat bonus.
Sniper – Easy yes, but your missing the point of my argument – WE ARE WASTING POINTS ON AGI.

Lets take any class for example –
Mage – agi? Joke? Maybe just 50~~ or 75 to spam faster
Champ – agi? Joke? Why agi when we can str, dex and some int + vit to asura spam?

I don’t care if u have more than 10 years of experience on IRO – You are bad at balancing. You probably never played all the class like I did, probably never maxed all the class like I did, and most definitely did NOT make any pvp attempt with all class like I did (I even tried with soul linker).

2) Please STFU for It has failed on me 2/3 times… that 3% really gets to me. I lost both my gears and cards due to that and I am afraid to use my MVP gear now – next thing you want me to do is donate. And Learn to read, there is a chance that you lose BOTH item, cards and weapon/armor. I really do not like to say this, but you sound like someone who did not read through what I’ve typed. At all.
As far for mvp cards – there are abunch of cards that are meant to be used in training. I would have expected you to know if you REALLY did play for near 10 years (or just a kid talking shit).
3)
A) Please tell me the names of the people who survived, and ill tell you my whole list of people who didn’t. Wanna go? You lost from the start – a lot of non-tank class survive without gr? That’s a Huge joke – come back with prove pl0x.
B) You don’t see a problem with champions because YOU (I guess) never played all the class before. YOU probably played champ, mage and assassin for your entire life on RO. 10 years heh? Really?
C) Rest assure – more people agrees with me on this than you. At least in my circle of pront, the people I know in Valk, they agree with me.
D) You are dumb – play JRO and make a champ and then just WOW at the 1 sec delay they have
E) ALSO – after asura in the server you should know that champ with low dex but high str cannot use any skill for 30 sec ~1 min depending on your dex.
EDP and soul link sonic blow is a staple cookie cutter assassin build from official servers, EDP and the assassin soul link stack, have always stacked and there isn’t much reason to take that away from them.
F) Ofc, it’s a pvp method but when you make it in the high rate server – you sir – are just stupid not to think about anything else. It’s like im arguing with someone who cannot understand “the whole point of PVP is not to one shot another person, but take skills and timing of changing weapons and armors to overcome your foes.” Admit it, you just want your class to stay OP, especially for champ – I have almost all of the class right now except for clown/gypsy, LK and super novice (On OsRO) and I can tell you – you are selfish.
G) Again – you over look the point that – We need to spend 4 slot on weapon for drop cards. And many other place to add Dex in order to get 190 *without buff* - its doable but not worth it – low as hell magic attack.
H) Also, instant cast wizard isn’t that strong – there are many ways to go pass them – maybe you should learn how to switch to mdef gear.

4) Wdh – What – is – your – logic – behind – this? Anyways, it is just another tactic that we can easily use – protect outside castle *assassin can back slide in, people can body relocate in or even kill us to get int* but it ensures that they do not have 3rd class buff on them – even if they do “from town” it should be instantly removed when it is in the ground of WOE – just program it that way.

5) Not their day job indeed, but a job that must be done. Quickly if must, the server, is, dying.
6) Ya, I see them online too – but what we need is someone with power AKA admin – someone who can actually change stuff – fix bug – final say in everything – AKA jim. Sadly he is almost, always AFKING

7) I donno who you are, but your building your champ wrong – I’ve seen 999,999 dmg on mvp from sura all the time, from this server. And dude – +6 str from ring and +12 str from 4 mantis for a total of 18 str – you call not a lot? You are really… ignorant, worse of all you are ignorant of being ignorant.

8) Cough cough, 2.5 sec on a mid rate with god items. 34 sec with normal items. Many people from valk and people like myself would like to actually do what we are suppose to do in WoE – break emps – I don’t have an ice pick – but If I can break in 34 sec and have 4 ppl defending – id be happy – maybe you guys can learn how to def a castle properly then.
Also, I do agree it’s a multiplayer game – but I alone did get many castle from the past of JRO, blackout, Avalon RO, rebirth so on and so forth. Why? Not because I was ninja, but because they *you in this case* do not want to learn how to defend a castle to the end. WoE is the most exiting at the last 2 min because it’s due or die and we protect castle from the start because we would need to keep the investment up (guild leader thing).

9) Cough cough, please teach me how to solo thanatos, valk, gloom, ifrit, and keil using rangers. Don’t worry – have donations and most of the card – oh what? Its not doable? I thought so.
Kaupe? Joke? Holy light and asura – whats so hard about that? I have a champ too I know. FFS – l2p.
And bio labs are done by a bunch of champs. Without champs it would be HARD as hell to kill Bio mvp, then again – who needs a team of different classes like JRO (40 people) to kill one bio lab MVP. We just need maybe 3 champ? Slowly but definitely will kill the MVP.

10) You are a joke, please learn how to WoE with rangers
A) We need to pick up the trap the expires so we cant be that far
B) It doesn’t matter how far we r – champions ignores all traps with body relocation.
C) And as far as I know, stacking traps wasn’t a bug – it was legit in JRO and many of the other server I played.

11) You do realize that IRO have a lot of Philippines too right? Yet they balance the time. It isn’t that hard. I’ve been on my friend’s IRO account and watched him WOE – it was a good time for us to play games. – it isn’t hard at all to balance the time so both east and west can play – DO NOT MAKE EXCUSES.
Heh? Team of 2 people? What a joke – get those 2 people please – ill show them what an offence is, not one person nor 5 nor 10, im talking about 60 people rushing in like JRO – Like I said – ive come from a server that emphasize on quick attack and REALLY REALLLLY TIGHT DEF.

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Interesting, you keep editing the post over and over.

If you mean AntiX is your gunslinger. You don't need to Asura him to kill him, but it is an easy method to do none the less. There are other ways to deal with Gunslingers, EX: Pneuma

I don't know where you are getting your information from... But I have never seen Monks/Champions/Suras use Finger Offensive as their 'main' damage dealing skill. If you haven't learned anything from the woeing that is going on, apparently Asura does more damage o.O
On iRO my job as a Champion was to sit near the emp and 'Asura' anyone that got near it. Finger Offensive is only good when they are inside Safety Wall.... OMG!!! I GAVE AWAY THE SECRET TO STOPPING ASURA!!!

I am in One Piece. We field at most 6, and I repeat, 6, real live breathing people during WoE.
One Piece knows quite a bit about it being one sided. Everyone used to kick us around in woe, Valk and their Alliance, and Hentai.
Also I come from iRO, I've played in the big guilds and even small guilds. I know how one sided it can be and this server is no where near how one sided an official server gets.
A) He isn’t my gunner – im the guild leader – he is my friend
B) Pueuma doesn’t stop desperado – nice try. You really know nothing about gunner – our defence on emp = desperado. We Rarely come out and triple action people.
C) I donno where have you been but finger offence has always been the main damage for low and mid-low servers.
D) And No, you do not know what one sided is – one sided is that there is LITTLE CASTLE AVALIABLE and all the big guild is there. AKA right now.
You are in alliance with hentai so you can’t really say anything about one sided right now.
E) yes asura does more dmg - but on JRO u can either choose to have fast casting time and low dmg, hybrid - or high dmg slow casting time with waste stove card. ALSO - after asura there is a period of time where u cannot use your skill depending on your dex. Anyways - cheers - you probably only play your sura to MvP because rangers got nerfed in mvp - hard stun lock anymore. + asura is better right? higher dmg - stay op pl0x.

P.s Fun fact - Peech from Valk guild can asura me for 81k with 1 str and 1 int. O.o
P.P.s - If you dont change the WOE time soon this server will be only Philippians - a private philippian server.
P.P.P.S - I would really like to guess that Sura is your main and you are Suguro.
Any gm wanna confirm this? - -

Kobowo

02-28-2012, 12:46 AM

howeryu

02-28-2012, 01:10 AM

Guys chill. We wouldn't want this to turn into a flame war would we?

I can't really comment on the balancing since I've only started playing ro here. But as far as it goes, the only thing I could say is just live with it. There are tons of private servers out there so why are you stressing on one? If you're not enjoying no is really forcing you to stay.

Your post was kinda stuck so I was able to fix it the one that had a quote. And btw please use the edit button if you were the last poster. Don't double post.

No one is forcing anyone to stay - but the fact remains - this server is unbalanced and instead of saying "live with it" try to make it better please. If you are a GM start your own character - play through them - Woe - have fun - and when you find a bug report it to jim.

Yes there are many private servers - and the point being i dont have to be here - but i choose to and i want to make this server better - am i not welcomed here? If this forum was alive to alot of people who are currently playing OSRO right now im sure it will break down to 2 fraction - valk + orb against hentai + one piece
there are always gonna be 2 sides - but it is up to the GM to find the right balance.

Also - Orb and Valk aren't in any way alliances at all - we still attack each other during WoE

so its kind of like 2 (hentai + OP) vs 1 (valk) vs 1 (orb) - the 4 of us probably made it to near 90% of the active population in OsRO - so what is the final decision of the gm? balance or keep it like it is?

Siomai

02-28-2012, 01:10 AM

Kobowo

02-28-2012, 01:16 AM

Nope not a gm. lol.

howeryu

02-28-2012, 01:24 AM

Not too sound harsh but this thread seems to be more directed at himself and his guild maybe because they are having a hard time dealing with the changes? I hardly play but me and my friends don't seem to get bothered with the slight changes the servers have made.
And for someone who's played RO for 9 years I assume you are old enough to act maturely and not attack someone.

and like what Kobowo said, no ones forcing you to play this server right?

My point of view is from the eyes of a guild leader of a small guild
and consider the fact that a lot of valk people agree with me - i dont think im far off being general.

and if u want me to quit - just say so - let this server die quicker.

Yes - to hard time dealing with these unexpected nerfs over and over again - adapting yes - but at the same time raging.
P.s - my guild is still there surviving trying our best to protect ourselves from OP, hentai and valk at the same time - apparently they like to kill the weak guild first.
we had 3 castle now we r down to 2 after 3 Woe. sigh.

Oh and one important thing that YOU should know - I typed this not because of rage - but because of Ha Ji (valk) and poisonous (OP) <---they wanted me to - so i just did.

Kuroshi~!~! come on man - help me here - - stop being lazy and only read.

edit:

One more thing - To say "No one is forcing you to stay" is another way of saying "gtfo" to me - After i spent so much time coming up with ideas with balacing and improving the server - all you guys can think of * even moderators * is gtfo.

Edit #2:
What i stated are all facts - with that said i left out one thing about champ - with gr on and frozen wing on champs are useless against them - shouldnt we change the frozen wing to 50% resistance to freeze instead of immunity? I can see why champ's are complaining not to be nerfed - gr with unfreeze - which champ would want to face that?

Also one thing i would like to point out.
http://onepieceosro.guildlaunch.com/
SpazKaz
Kobowo
are both from one piece and ofc supporting one another. It would be nice if you can list what guild you are in and the character names - so we can have a side thing going on.

NestyBamba

02-28-2012, 02:34 AM

howeryu

02-28-2012, 02:36 AM

HMM! I Was grown up playing ro. this server was a good one why?, beacause it is in mid rate where you will play it longer than high rates private server, so I completely disagree with this thread and i agree with SpazKaz you will enjoy it when you cooperate with the other players dont be a loner. Although I have an sprite error problem I fixed it with my self without a help from Gm for moderators, use your common sense Im not saying that you are wrong, in same point you were right but since this was a new born server it can be improve thats all happy playin :))
Did u completely miss that part that
"Im not alone in this?"
Oh well - -
i guess people dont read anymore.
P.s ur whole argument makes no sense.
im guessing ur from OP too?

"beacause it is in mid rate where you will play it longer than high rates private server,"
what is ur argument here against mine? i really do not get it.

Siomai

02-28-2012, 02:44 AM

howeryu

02-28-2012, 02:51 AM

I was originally from Armed and Loaded but most of them quit, and now I am guildless, ( Requiem )
and from what I see this thread is starting to be a flame war, your actually calling out people because of your immaturity. Of course they would support each other since they are from the same guild. You sir are just looking for trouble if I may say so. This is probably why all the other guilds are actually ganging up on you?

Also from your previous post, If I say GTFO politely would you actually quite? then yes :) it would probably make the server less noisy.
I might ask you - which part of the things i typed isnt true? Are they not from the same guild? are they not supporting each other? Maybe i may be immature - but at least i can put my logic together - You on the other hand had been just bashing at me - without any good reason.
You sir, is what i define as a troll - if u are guildless what can u say about recent woe? and WoE time changes? ASPD nerf? effecting assassin cross on breaking.
I REALLY do not understand Why, Why would you even come here and post without any supporting fact?

And if i were to sound like im flaming, i do apologize - but keep in mind - im not the one who started - and im still trying to be as polite as possible without my rage taking over me.

P.s - Yes - if i quit the server would be a lot less noisy - because i count myself as one of the most active member on OSRO.
Then again - 1 less enemy on the server is better for you guys right?
i really hope Jim would somewhat understand where im coming from with all my fact
and what im attempting to achieve.