Death of the Filehosting??

[BloodyAngel]

http://i.imgur.com/dEgki.jpg

Okay, I know this isn't related to Anime/Japan/Manga News or some sort but this could be a warning to us.

Right now Many Filehosting websites are doing many changes that could affect Otaku-Streamers.
Not just Filehosting that doing the changes but many companies are also taking the "advantage" of the situation to take control of the "Copyright Act".


Ever since Megaupload has been taken down and the staff were arrested, all the other filehosts have been more cautious. They're massively deleting files and accounts, shutting down various features like hot linking, affiliate programs etc. They're even going as far as to banning the entire country from access their sites (namely, US).

Okay, How this will affect OS? First of all, this will affect mostly the Uploaders on Otaku-Streamers because....

If those Filehosting website continue to do this, All Uploads on the Otaku-Streamers will keep delaying and delaying until We can't upload anymore.
There is also some Filehosting websites that only allows original uploaders to download their own files which they have discontinued their services.

The Last resort is by Torrent if those Filehosting Website keeps changing and trying to prevent their "shutdown".

Now how can this affect the users of OS?

Well I asked Jbluey opinion about it and He said "All Anime's/Drama's Uploads will be kept limited". What does this mean? It means that you'll expect some Animes or Drama will NOT be uploaded here anymore. We are also trying to be cautious so that Otaku-Streamers will not be taken down by those "companines".

Right now Sopa and Pipa are postponed by the US Congress but this just doesn't stop anything at all.

For me, as an Uploader of Otaku-Streamers since 2009. I just hate what those Filehosting website are doing right now and also I really hate those SOPA/PIPA Bills since I'm 80% positive that other countries will try and copy those laws.

[JotaHora]

Yes, other countries are now "TRYING" to copy just right after we're relieved that SOPA is poseponed indefinitely. We can't relax, can we?

[Liberator]

This is bad now because everyone is being cautious. Things need to cool down for awhile then things will get back into the normal way of things. Also, there is always a way to do things so if we still have those problems then somehow we will make do. After all, this site ISN'T just for streaming.

[mlcdl]

Gonna start saying goodbye on anime that got licensed already since that most likely those are the titles wont be uploaded

[[anne000]]

I can't believe we're really that affected... Those senators are making me raged right now... But anyways,
I'll just have to accept the fact that some of my favorite animes/dramas will not be uploaded...

[tfioi]

When the world revolves around money, this is bound to happen.

Sharing is carring, just like lending a video to your friend is or making a home cinema night when you bought a good film.
File sharing for me is the same thing just in a global plan, and they should be happy cause countless peeps wont buy a damn thing if they do not see it first.
The ones who can buy it will buy it any way no matter if they can get the same thing for free at some random site.
But that's off-topic now....

Any way, I hope all this cools down and we get back on with our hours and hours of watching anime here at OS =)

[GMSieghart]

really sad about that news! but ! this is not just right! ! and if that happens i will sure ! they not just kill the Web! but also they killed the Computer industry ! well u see ! so many people buy pc so they can surf net and for other something else! so who would buy a pc if u cant use the internet! meaningless right!! well this must stop and! i know so many people will react to this! probably!

[error345]

How this affects os (uploaders and viewers)

Firstly, with the shutdown of MU all the data (animes) is now inaccessible. So if an uploader was using MU as his download source and didn't finish downloading the animes he'll have to find another source. As an uploader, majority of my animes came from MU sources. This makes the older animes even harder to find because old animes rarely have active seeds on torrent. The shutdown of MU also affected nearly all DDL sites, one of my favorite download site has shutdown as well because all the downloads were MU links; so you can see how this affects uploaders. With these changes uploading will definitely be harder.

[avich]

Visit filesonic.com

[Biak911]

But SOPA is dead! http://mashable.com/2012/01/20/sopa-is-dead-smith-pulls-bill/ They will regret with what they have done! I hope torrent will be enough for OS in the mean time.

[Reki Kanaede]

MegaUpload, then FileSonic ~
so what's next?

those US Senators are really out of their minds ~
what, can't they keep their bills on their own country?
they mess with the freedom of the internet and what? they love to enrage the people around the world?
and with this, other countries will also copy the same bill ~
what a bothersome ~ ==

[awnaman123]

Firstly, with the shutdown of MU all the data (animes) is know inaccessible. So if an uploader was using MU as his download source and didn't finish downloading the animes he'll have to find another source. As an uploader, majority of my animes came from MU sources. This makes the older animes even harder to find because old animes rarely have active seeds on torrent. The shutdown of MU also affected nearly all DDL sites, one of my favorite download site has shutdown as well because all the downloads were MU links; so you can see how this affects uploaders. With these changes uploading will definitely be harder.

Exactly, just when I have older animes to upload, MU went down and my dl links are there ... >.<
I wonder about torrent coz if there ain't many seeds, the dl speed is slow so it will take time dling them.




Visit filesonic.com

as an uploader, I've tried dowloading to that site and other dl sites with [file] names ...
the only problem is the download speed if we are to download there are like half of ur original
download speed, obvious outcome downloading will be slowed. >.<

[avich]

error345 (http://otaku-streamers.com/community/member.php?41368-error345) is right. If MU will permanently fall, it would take the old anime archive with it. So many fansub groups use MU to archive their animes. Thankfully most of the old animes are on OS thanks to our uploaders. If this trend goes on, what we have here on OS might be considered very precious, like holding on to those nostalgic memories that we refuse to let go.

Our old animes will become like a gold bar in the otaku world.

[nataku411]

I feel ashamed, knowing it was my countries' higher-ups that caused all this trouble.

[FiQ5149]

....hmm..so it finally posted here in OS, about what happen to other filehosting sites other than megaupload..

Anime Upload is keep limited huh?

Oh well, i better be prepared for it.

[canisalpha]

Because the US gov't, as it stands, recognize neither the sovereignty of other nations nor its own people to begin with. Heck, they don't even care for the civil liberties of their own citizens just for the sake of corporatism. They've imposed several wars without permission from the congress. "You don't like us? Boom! Preemptive strike! You're a terrorist." Basically, they've endowed themselves their right to police the world. They view peace as stagnation and will incite anger just to further their motives. Everything that threatens the business portfolio of their lobbyists is essentially evil. They continue to adulterate the very constitution they swore to protect. We live in a dark age - run by lies and deceit. And before you put a copyright over this, lemme just say, FU!


"Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power." - Benjamin Franklin

[SushilovesNori]

Here is a slightly far fetched idea that MAY be considered in the long run and for the sake of keeping anime itself alive.

There is a website out there on the internet that provides people outside of asian countries with the ability to purchase J-dramas and K-dramas. It's an English website and is accessible to pretty much anyone. It's all legitimate, and done properly. If... and I only say if (and please consider that what I am proposing is by no means EASY nor simple, and would require many legalities, and just as much compromise on the part of those most affected -the admins-.), but if by some chance the administrators were open to exploring and possibly researching the possibility of combining the features of that website (by stabilizing a contract with anime distributors and providing them with an avenue to sell their product to an otherwise unreachable fanbase) and the features of another website known for streaming LEGALLY (which we will only term as CR, which every otaku already knows about.) it's possible to not only provide a way to preserve anime and dramas in a TANGIBLE form (i.e. a disk known as a DVD) but also to allow streaming of said shows.


It's a matter of HOW one pitches this to the companies one is trying to develop a healthy relationship with. Let's face it. Eventually they WILL find a way to put a wrench in this machine. But if we work around that wrench by possibly establishing a relationship with them that actually gains them more financial value, they may be open to an agreement which not only would benefit OS (because think about it, if you're offering to sell their plushies, keychains, dvd's, posters, on a special section of the site, they make money AND because they're making money, OS won't ever have to put up Ad's which we already figured out everyone hates. Secondly, I myself am one of those people who wants a damn piggybunny plushie and I would hate to have to go 8 hours to Edmonton to hopefully find it. I'm sure other people feel the same way about many cute anime things they can't get unless directly from the source at INSANE prices.) but it would also benefit the viewers (by providing us with actual materials we can watch in 10 or 15 years, because lets face it, pixels and Megabytes don't last forever, and if some system failure occurs, it may get lost forever, but NOT if we have tangible versions of them, and it also gives us a chance to indulge in the REAL otaku experience by providing us with things we can't easily access in the U.S., Canada, Europe.) and it benefits the companies by providing them an internet venue run by English speakers who actually maintain the site already.


Now some people may call that selling out, but thats a naive point of view. Think about it. To otaku's anime is just as precious as a diary is to a 12 year old girl. If it disappeared one day because someone took it by force, you'd be upset, frustrated, and confused as to how to get it back. Instead of making companies the enemy, use them just like they use the consumers. It's a give and take relationship but consumers have gotten used to being bent over and just taking it. That's NOT how it has to be. There ARE possibilities. And it's EASY to make excuses as to why not even try. Some of those excuses could be due to fear of success, fear of failure, fear of pressure and demand, but guess what. Without success you have failure, without failure you have success. Both come with pressures and demands, and NONE of it is avoidable. So you can either wait for them to come and take you, grab you out of your hiding place on the big internet plains, or you can march up to their gates and say "Hey, I've got a proposal, and you're going to like it. Because it benefits a lot of people. Including you."


No big honcho rejects someone with the balls to walk up to them and talk to them as an equal.

[bountyhunter628]

This is indeed a sad sad age we live in. Unfortunately I can only expect things to get worse before they get better; however that's my cynical side speaking. My normal optimistic self hopes that things will calm down after a while and that the U.S. government will get around to pulling its head out of its... anyway, I guess I can live with missing some anime... for now. It irks me, yes, but sometimes sacrifices have to be made so that we can hold on to what we already have and be able to hold on to whatever we can grab in the future. Normally I'd quote something like "equivalent exchange" or something, but considering SOPA and PIPA were definitely cases of (what was that trope? Oh yes) disproportionate retribution (against Net pirates, yarr) I highly doubt the government fully understands such a simple concept. And as Ghandi said!


"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
Except in SOPA/PIPA's case it was more like an eye for an arm, leg, and heart, with C4 and TNT thrown in for good measure.

[Liberator]

If we were to go legit then worries over this whole mess with sopa wouldn't be an issue. Not to mention we would be directly supporting those who create the content we cherish. So I put in my vote for it to be considered as a serious option. Now to fund such an operation would have to be hammered out when the time comes for it so no need to think on that part now.

[Omikaru]

This is what I'd like to call by the government idiots a 'scare' tactic. As it turns out, SOPA was shelved, PIPA lost it's vast support, but apparently, instead of making these stupid bills that obviously didn't work, Hollywood and other companies honestly don't have to wait. It was the US Supreme Court that issued 20+ arrest warrants and charged each individual in those warrants, in favor of them. It was a behind the back plan to think we won and thought that would be the main force for us to focus on (the bills anyway)

The reason why I said scare tactic, is simply the fact that if the government targeted MU, the other filesharing places would see that and in fear of their own lives and reputation, would do the same to save their own ass.

[xiety]

Time to find Non - US bound file hosting sites
We might find it in China

[kellybang]

hope theres an offshore uploading sites @_@

[Aikawa]

Whattt!!!!!!!!!!:omg: Delaying of anime NO this isn't happening Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!:noway:

We must move
Thank you @Bloody angel

[ranmachua]

Oh no! Does this mean OS is closing down?! I hope not!!! I'm praying so hard right now!!!!

[Liberator]

If OS were threatened the upper echelons would be notified by the legal system to remove the offending items and such.

So no, OS itself isn't in trouble. Just the licensed anime that we currently stream.

[kaleidos]

This is just my opinion... I'M ANGRY OF THIS!!! (but not quite, just exaggerating myself >.<) If they're going to shut everything up (well of course it would become a chain effect like if you pass a RH bill next comes to acceptance to abortion and divorce, well of course I'm again exaggerating) they should shut everything up even the technology advancements and everything... let us see if they could survive that kind of life... MWAHAHAHAHA but I couldn't survive that also... MAYGAD!!! I'm about to cry... ahuhuhuhu... but copyrights are shown at the credits right??? based on my studies... If there are specifications like credits (movies), sources (text), products (the letter C inside the circle) are permissible... I could not understand this is happening... BTW...
ALL HAIL OS
>.<

[Darthjaw93]

While I'm angry to know of all that can happen, I'm also not surprised.

I've always had a thought of how the internet would be controlled one day when I was young; I've even tried to prepared myself for the end every year. I will keep watching anime up until the day until it can't be uploaded. However, I don't believe uploading all can be controlled, it's just not possible because some sites could be hidden. If they close a single file-sharing, 10 more can open. I give it another 5 - 10 years that we may something major happen, and at that time I will panic and finally come to terms my freedom is taken more from me.

If worst case is by torrents, then I would say go for it. If delaying is the only answer to get anime up, I can wait. I mean there are 1000 of series I haven't watched and waiting on some isn't always bad...Plus we as a community can always help.

Just to add can't wait till I'm told what to eat, what to watch, or what to think...Because that's what will happen next in the government.

[eureka199]

well honestly the government is using this to make people angry and if anyone recalls the PS network incident where a group of hackers completely destroyed the PS network brick by brick the same thing is already happening to the government. Several judicial sites have be targeted and hacked. The senators and representatives do not know what they are doing the PS network was taken down by only a hand full of hackers while the government will piss off millions of hackers which will completely destroy American government since everything is computerized. That is exactly what they want so that they can take more of our freedoms away but they underestimate the amount of hackers out there. This scare tactic is being used to try and control our lives because they realized that the only place they don't have control is the internet and they cant stand it and by they I mean the government.

[bhebhecola08]

this is madness! >_<

[ganarok]

**** those us government officials! SOPA and PIPA are taken down yet they shut down megaupload and even arrested their executives, US government are just doing what they want, do you think that this is just a coincidence when this happened right just after the revolt of major sites opposing SOPA and PIPA?:angry1:

[gala1221]

When the FBI decided to shutdown Megaupload, it was a move made to threaten the stability of the other filehosting sites. They did it by using servers from Megaupload located in the US to catch and arrest those people.

With all this shit going around, I doubt that any of those filehosting sites can sit still and do nothing. They will try to prevent it from happening to them to and we can't really do anything.. This is all messed up man!

[Pyramid Head]

This isn't so much relating to PIPA an SOPA, there were valid claims to be leveled at MegaUpload. The alternatives are being more cautious indeed, but the thing is, MegaUpload basically never replied to copyright claims and hosted things like clips from American television shows which not even the more lenient measures of the DMCA protects. That said, there's no shortage of filehosting websites even if the largest one went down, things may slow down here for a little while but it's not time to start panicking just yet.

[hokeymon]

This was what the Mayans meant when the end of the world would come this 2012. That f***ing sopa will start the next world war.

[deepsnow480]

goes to show they are scared cause of wat happen to megaupload

[jeffnat19]

this will not fare well to the US government...

I predict that the US government is having really big problems now. their plan backfired... if they're going to close down every filesharing, streaming, and other sites fueled by "pirate" goods, the support of the people will really go down the drain...

and remember that China is watching, and China as I see it is capital of the Pirates, the new center of commerce. they would get all the support they need to become top one in the world. I think US gov't is moving according how the Chinese gov't had planned.

~being paranoid, sorry... but seriously, i pray that they won't touch anything anymore. i use most of the filesharing sites to save and distribute school notes... when MU was brought down, i think it dragged my future together with it... now i'm praying so hard for both of the future of the internet and my life.

[judarest]

80% positive? Make it 100% sure!
China, Iran & Malaysia did that before this SOPA/ACTA/PIPA was announced.

IDK how you guys worked with OS but you can at least rent a VPS/VDS somewhere in Netherlands or offshore hosts.
Then you guys can provide your users an alternative Proxy/VPN to connect to your websites or something.

Well, I've read somewhere that Mozilla has an add-on called DeSOPA (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/desopa/).

Eitherway, this will not surely the end of filesharing, there will be new techniques. Torrent has Magnet Links (its completely untraceable) for example.
Sopa/acta/pipa will be the cause of downfall of US.

[mlcdl]

Here is a slightly far fetched idea that MAY be considered in the long run and for the sake of keeping anime itself alive.

There is a website out there on the internet that provides people outside of asian countries with the ability to purchase J-dramas and K-dramas. It's an English website and is accessible to pretty much anyone. It's all legitimate, and done properly. If... and I only say if (and please consider that what I am proposing is by no means EASY nor simple, and would require many legalities, and just as much compromise on the part of those most affected -the admins-.), but if by some chance the administrators were open to exploring and possibly researching the possibility of combining the features of that website (by stabilizing a contract with anime distributors and providing them with an avenue to sell their product to an otherwise unreachable fanbase) and the features of another website known for streaming LEGALLY (which we will only term as CR, which every otaku already knows about.) it's possible to not only provide a way to preserve anime and dramas in a TANGIBLE form (i.e. a disk known as a DVD) but also to allow streaming of said shows.


It's a matter of HOW one pitches this to the companies one is trying to develop a healthy relationship with. Let's face it. Eventually they WILL find a way to put a wrench in this machine. But if we work around that wrench by possibly establishing a relationship with them that actually gains them more financial value, they may be open to an agreement which not only would benefit OS (because think about it, if you're offering to sell their plushies, keychains, dvd's, posters, on a special section of the site, they make money AND because they're making money, OS won't ever have to put up Ad's which we already figured out everyone hates. Secondly, I myself am one of those people who wants a damn piggybunny plushie and I would hate to have to go 8 hours to Edmonton to hopefully find it. I'm sure other people feel the same way about many cute anime things they can't get unless directly from the source at INSANE prices.) but it would also benefit the viewers (by providing us with actual materials we can watch in 10 or 15 years, because lets face it, pixels and Megabytes don't last forever, and if some system failure occurs, it may get lost forever, but NOT if we have tangible versions of them, and it also gives us a chance to indulge in the REAL otaku experience by providing us with things we can't easily access in the U.S., Canada, Europe.) and it benefits the companies by providing them an internet venue run by English speakers who actually maintain the site already.


Now some people may call that selling out, but thats a naive point of view. Think about it. To otaku's anime is just as precious as a diary is to a 12 year old girl. If it disappeared one day because someone took it by force, you'd be upset, frustrated, and confused as to how to get it back. Instead of making companies the enemy, use them just like they use the consumers. It's a give and take relationship but consumers have gotten used to being bent over and just taking it. That's NOT how it has to be. There ARE possibilities. And it's EASY to make excuses as to why not even try. Some of those excuses could be due to fear of success, fear of failure, fear of pressure and demand, but guess what. Without success you have failure, without failure you have success. Both come with pressures and demands, and NONE of it is avoidable. So you can either wait for them to come and take you, grab you out of your hiding place on the big internet plains, or you can march up to their gates and say "Hey, I've got a proposal, and you're going to like it. Because it benefits a lot of people. Including you."


No big honcho rejects someone with the balls to walk up to them and talk to them as an equal.

A great option indeed but then again the fear is still overwhelming for this one


well honestly the government is using this to make people angry and if anyone recalls the PS network incident where a group of hackers completely destroyed the PS network brick by brick the same thing is already happening to the government. Several judicial sites have be targeted and hacked. The senators and representatives do not know what they are doing the PS network was taken down by only a hand full of hackers while the government will piss off millions of hackers which will completely destroy American government since everything is computerized. That is exactly what they want so that they can take more of our freedoms away but they underestimate the amount of hackers out there. This scare tactic is being used to try and control our lives because they realized that the only place they don't have control is the internet and they cant stand it and by they I mean the government.

Now Im going to support those hacker if they plan to destroy them.


this will not fare well to the US government...

I predict that the US government is having really big problems now. their plan backfired... if they're going to close down every filesharing, streaming, and other sites fueled by "pirate" goods, the support of the people will really go down the drain...

and remember that China is watching, and China as I see it is capital of the Pirates, the new center of commerce. they would get all the support they need to become top one in the world. I think US gov't is moving according how the Chinese gov't had planned.


Agreed but as of our current and might be for the meantime situation(might last more than a year), its better for China to make a move about this if they are only after money(well most likely)

[Suffle]

:dignose:Guess this cant be helped

i noticed some delay in some of the animes that i were having an eye on :crywithno

[powerband]

My only time wasting boredom killing activity is about to be erased..

[eddy511]

Why is it that every time before i go to sleep everything is fine then when i wake up the next morning their's nothing but bad news, but we can get through this remember manga sites how they were shutting down its the same thing just have to wait until things cool down.

[mokochan013]

ehhhh now that you said it i think theres more on to why megaupload was shut downed hmmm interesting maybe the bills were jut decoys and from the start they knew it wont pass ahhhh damn interesting

[Ravenrosail]

What if we make our very own link ? Something like an OS server ?

Will it work ?

[SushilovesNori]

Why is it that every time before i go to sleep everything is fine then when i wake up the next morning their's nothing but bad news, but we can get through this remember manga sites how they were shutting down its the same thing just have to wait until things cool down.

To be honest, I can certainly understand how you feel. I've felt that way many times over the course of my life, but one thing that must be realized is that... these things happen. There will always be a challenge that threatens a persons way of life and the things that a person enjoys. If things were had so easily, appreciation for them would disappear. That's why, if someone appreciates anime, they shouldn't just sit back and feel bad that it's "disappearing", they should find creative compromises that allow it to continue existing. Sometimes this means working with the same individuals who SEEM to be threatening ones way of life. Sometimes they just haven't come up with a better solution that benefits everyone, either. Someone has to be the innovator at some point. And as the next generation, that responsibility falls to you guys. :) Think long and hard about possibilities. Who knows if it may encourage you to pursue a future you never considered possible before.

[Reizero]

2012 is probably the day that marks the end of the internet. First Occupy, then this? We're being attacked in reality and virtually, and all I can do is sign a million petitions... I really hope this goes away soon, but knowing history, this will probably erupt into a full blown battle.

[Juuri]

No, i will die and freak out if OS dies...................... :omg:

[DacKeith]

Is SOPA dead?

[eddy511]

From what i've seen and read they are not really targeting anime just file hosts that have tv shows,movies,music etc. and it just so happens that where you get those you also get anime. We just have to wait and hope nothing to bad happens or else riots will happen.

[Suffle]

From what i've seen and read they are not really targeting anime just file hosts that have tv shows,movies,music etc. and it just so happens that where you get those you also get anime. We just have to wait and hope nothing to bad happens or else riots will happen.


Anime is still copyrighted material, which is what they are trying to avoid, not only tv shows,movies and music.

[Suffle]

What if we make our very own link ? Something like an OS server ?

Will it work ?


I guess it would work, just have to get people to download the torrent for each anime show and then upload it on the site. But who knows how much it cost to keep up a site like that >.< not to mention the dl time for each torrent

[hades013]

ahh...
thing's just got worse than ever...
not really my type to get mad about this, but if they affected anime and games...
then it's a different story...

[takasuryuuji]

Oh No!.... I don't want this to happen....

[benito18]

the source of all our problems thanks! to that annoying laws now the problem never stops.

[dab117]

I would hate to see our community fall apart because of some bill. I'm afraid of OS being shut down or turned into another CR for that matter. Hopefully for uploaders, we'll be able to find other filehosting sites that still does not a rat's behind about SOPA

[error345]

Along with Megaupload (http://megaupload.com) both Filesonic (filesonic.com) and Fileserve (fileserve.com) is now useless to download anime, because there's no file sharing. They only allow personal downloads and upload. Which filehosting site is next?

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc378/cold3455/filesonic.png
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc378/cold3455/fileserve-1.png

[IrishMonkee]

For me, the worry is that OS is a .com. It's a shame that world governments are trying to break the Internet in order to gain maximum control. Reminds me of war of the worlds.

[heyiluvchoco]

The government just HAPPENED to plan taking down all the wonderful freedom of the people and Internet all on 2012 together in the same year.. -_-

[hnnryy]

i think its a form of causing fear to everybody and BTW theres always servers out of juristiction of USA so... we could be like an ilegal army streaming anime like drugdealers sell they product only harder to localize :D

[deonleosen]

since last month ive been downloading random anime series!., cuzz i think in the near future it will no longer be free,.!!
CRUNCH MODE BABY!


PC STATUS::SINCE LAST SHUTDOWN:: 36 DAYS:: 52 minutes.

[pikel]

I just don't understand what is going on anymore. How can the US government take down MegaUpload and all other sites slowly disintegrate out of fear of being next. Seriously... what's next?

[MasterRoshii]

I just don't understand what is going on anymore. How can the US government take down MegaUpload and all other sites slowly disintegrate out of fear of being next. Seriously... what's next?
ACTA is next, Sopa/PIPA were just smokescreens to see where people stand.

[Kumo no Yoru]

Amazing how one country believes that "Democracy" and "Freedoms" means "Control" and "Government/Richies Only". I'm not against the idea of SOPA and PIPA if I (JUST ME...) was the one in control of it because then I'd just let everyone else go. That or somebody else who'd just simply give up on trying to ban every site. What's being done is practically a massive whitelist, where hollywood is the only "competitor". The biggest annoyance is how many sites instantly become considered "a threat" just for what they have in the background, music, or what there is on the site overall.

There's nothing morally right about SOPA and PIPA. A lot of the world's greatest mistakes came from a small but good idea. I can only hope the senators and US government will realize that before their citizens turn to a frenzying mad crowd.

[ezergamboa]

duh... even though SOPA and PIPA didn't push through... this guy got in "ACTA"


check em out -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement

[Sora Kasugano]

Ridiculous! So basically, it's good bye to the Anime and Drama's that have licence?

[dambuk1]

My opinion ? If this goes on 60% of possible futures will be futures with world wide revolutions and anarchy - most government sites in my country are already hacked by anonymous and no one can keep up, so if you gave them guns instead of keyboards... well it's easy to guess what will happen ]:>

[iceandsnow]

I guess the 1% of our social pyramid is trying to control us AGAIN. Piracy is wrong and all, but it's pretty obvious that things like that and file sharing are some of the reasons why people use the internet right now. Everyone who has used the internet has already done an act connected to piracy. The 1% has already controlled us economically and politically. Looks like they're also planning to take over cyberspace.

But hey, I read that one of the main supporters of SOPA and PIPA actually backed out on supporting it because of the online protests that the proposed bills have received.

As netizens, let's just stay tuned to what happens after all this. But really, I just want to watch my fave shows. Living life today can be quite stressful. =.=

[Raynold]

This isnt right i hope they will come to a sense and discover what they did is wrong

[4zn]

These bills will just lead to more crime, the growth of the black market and the growth of hackers.

[WeiNaChan]

Found this link was posted by a friend... http://ontd-political.livejournal.com/9215101.html Sad, really. Off topic, I guess, but most of mg LQ Anime downloads and scanlated manga came from MediaFire... it's really difficult download and upload (basically, share) with all the file-hosting sites doing precautions... I guess most if not all of my uploaded Anime OST, e-books and manga are to be taken down/deleted.

[DacKeith]

I thought that America is a democratic country? so why do the senate needs to pass the bill even though there are many people against it and they are just people who agree? I agree with everyone that this is an overkill, they just want to control the net!

[Junya]

filestube.com
fileserve
filesonic
hotfile

by the way, filestube the best

[rsckim]

iceandsnow, and friends you are right!!! Unfortunately in America we pretend to be a democracy but we're really an inverted totalitarian state http://bit.ly/wrn4I --

Piracy Costs the Economy $200 B. a Year? ‘These Figures Were Made Up Out of Thin Air’ http://bit.ly/ww7a9i & http://bit.ly/w4s5WW -

The same AHoles that had the USA PATRIOT ACT written before 9/11 happened used 9/11 to scare people into passing it the moment an incident like 9/11 happened and these douche nozzles are the ones who take millions from Hollywood for protecting intellectual property and try to pass CENSORSHIP legislation.

The real reason why SOPA & PIPA didn't pass in its current form is because of the awareness generated by Mr Wales of Wikipedia, Reddit and the community and google has got deep pockets... but its not over and we didn't win believe you me Hollywood will make a deal with google and we will pay the price...

[acejammer]

..this bills is unfair,i hope that they will come to their senses as soon as possible.

[Bobtmonkey]

For some reason I just remembered the whole "no more school uniforms in anime sold in Tokyo" event. Everyone was up in arms about that whole thing, but after a few months it all passed over, and I personally haven't noticed much of an effect. I expect the same will happen with this one.

And for those of you outside of the US, it's extremely unlikely that this bill will pass, and if it can't pass here in the "corporate owned" US then it probably won't make it elsewhere.

[ryusei03]

not only on this site will having that problem. other site will also experience "The Death of filehosting" if the U.S congress approved the bill concerning the limitation of posting some file on the internet.
if that happen no new anime will be post without the concern of the owner of that anime.:noway:

and if you are inside or living on the U.S, please don't agree on that bill or don't say yes. if that bill will pass the congress, who know what bill will be next to be approved. maybe one of our freedom will be taken away.:noway:

[dexter453]

I don't know why they have to do this, but the internet is free for everybody, right?...they should reconsider!

DOWN WITH THE BLOODY BIGHEAD!

[askbel]

WTH ?! :( this is just sad.....

[veretai]

"As stated prior in what PIPA and SOPA are and what will they enable U.S. government agencies and private companies to do, the internet will become a hunt for any little bit of possible copyright violation. Of course the government loves blogs and bloggers, so it is only natural to think that they will receive a lot of special attention. These acts make it the blog owners responsibility for everything that is displayed on their site, including the comments of visitors." http://www.1stwebdesigner.com/design/how-sopa-pipa-can-affect-you/

This is just...insane. Well I knew it had to happen someday, big corporations trying to limit free internet. But not that so soon. And what a suprise, its US. That country is seriously S-C-A-R-Y.

[takasu013]

of course they are many people in this ridiculous piece of dirt called earth are greedy, scums, lazy a**es, s*x addicts,
and sometimes people just dont care as long as they have a good living


no offense for those who are but this is the truth and we should be realistic

i know im a lazy a** but hey atleast i know i am

[takasu013]

your so called scary is another term or greedy, i mean c'mon they're the most powerful country so why the hell would they be paying attention to sites that just lets you watch vids? people are greedy and the more you have power the more you get greedy

[Kinzzu]

:noway:I hate them,oh good don't end like this our freedom to internet world =.=

[muddz]

It really is the end of the world.

This cannot be happening!
I hope this will be stopped soon!!
Anime!!!!!! :'(

[UrzuZero]

Warning: This is a General statement set at a general population of the crowd topic and not at any specific individuals though a few of you may find yourself right in the area I am talking about.

First off again, I dont support any of these bills except maybe OPEN. However, You guys need to be real with yourselfs. Come to the fact that, Piracy is indeed wrong, and its illegal and it always has been, its not just not being illegal. Sites like this is illegal, regardless of the reason here, we are all in the wrong, everyone here, the government, people who download stuff that has copy-write (I know I do.). None of us are total victims we all played a part in this and we are ALL in the wrong. I dont doubt this is more about Power than Piracy, I dont doubt that at all.

You can play the blame game all you want, but at least be honest with yourselves on what exactly is going on here. People work tirelessly around the clock to bring you these anime, mangas, Jdramas etc etc, just because you cant afford it doesnt make it any less wrong to pirate it or to share it. While I dont condon the sudden action of closing megauplod, I also dont condone see the people who did it as villainous because they have every right to do so the law says so. I know if I made my living of an Anime I wouldnt want to lose profits that support me because people dont want to pay for the product. These guys are not rich, the creators are not rich, the companies are but they are not the creators. They live off this stuff, their lifes work. Please think about all this the next time you are about to type out how unfair this all is, before you imply you have done nothing wrong, before you throw blame on an entire country and not yourself. This is how we got into this situation in the first place, by acting like that.

If I were these File share sites I would be afraid too, I would change the rules around as well. They have a terms of use and agreement, Pretty sure none of you read it (except maybe a few of you.), when you brake it they have every right to do what they need to do to set you right. I know a lot of you dont want to hear any of this, there will more than likely be a few of you that will try to contest my statements. I have downloaded anime, Manga, a few games, Music, Movies. I am part of the problem, I am a small chunk of the reason this situation is here now. I realize this already, when will you guys?

However as it has indeed been said the only thing we can do is work against ACTA (and for US Citizens CPACT (this is just as important.)) and hope to continue on as a community in hopefully a safe manner.

[voltar]

oh no!the end is near!damn the people who proposed this...

[lon3lyh3art]

2012... so it has started. Well I heard that SOPA died so I hope that the other filehosting sites come back especially MU D: Seriously, why did they have to take something so precious to us T.T I just want to meet them upfront and slap them silly those who made the stupid bill :L Well I can't do anything else but complain so I would probably just hope for the best. LIVE ON OS!!!

[ryuscaine]

well now... this sounds like a downward spiral of the internet... this sucks

[Junya]

hey, what if we buy an anime an upload it here? At least DVD or blu ray anime have a better quality and it hasnt censored as the television version.

[DacKeith]

If SOPA and PIPA was stopped/ shelved then why MU and other uploading sites are still down?

[xkorenmaix]

SOPA and PIPA may be gone but they have an Another Evil Sibling Called ACTA. ACTA was passed. Seems that they used SOPA and PIPA as a distraction so that we all wouldnt notice it. if you dont know what ACTA is please Read about it now.

for those who dont to like to read heres a little explaination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baMhDNZogEM

[hambo]

Man lots of stuff has happened in such a short amount of time but oh well hopefully everything will be back to normal soon I guess for now we wait and see

[UrzuZero]

If SOPA and PIPA was stopped/ shelved then why MU and other uploading sites are still down?

MU going down didnt have anything to do with SOPA/PIPA (except the timing), MU was a site full of Pirated Content, the FBI have been working to take it down for years (they talking about taking it down A LONG time ago). The other sites arnt down (as in they were not taken down.), they just dont want to end up the same way as Megaupload so they are taking precautions to avoid legal trouble.

[ranmachua]

OS is the only site left that has online streaming animes. Other sites are all just dead links! I'm scared to think of what happens next!

[SushilovesNori]

OS is the only site left that has online streaming animes. Other sites are all just dead links! I'm scared to think of what happens next!

Sorry, this is incorrect information. I doublechecked. But I will not name which websites are still streaming anime because I don't think it's fair to promote other sites on here. One of them is pretty famous in the anime watching community though. (Not trying to antagonize, by the way, just don't want people thinking this is true when in fact it is not.)

[dexter453]

guys! they're starting to remove anime sites!!! HOLD THE OS FORT!

[azukare]

sometimes we need to pass terrible laws and rules just to find out how bad they are. They can act as a well-established warning to future generations, "Don't make this mistake." If it really is that bad and passes, it'll be reverted soon enough and then we'll have a great precedent for the future.

I know that sounds kind of sad-masochistic, but just remember the internet is only about 20 years old. That's nothing in legal terms. If this doesn't pass now then surely something like it will eventually.

[jpt112190]

*sigh...* man, if this continues, this planet will be so boring to live on...

[daizo]

I just don't get it. Internet was made as a universal network everyone could acces and no-one could control but now because some miljonairs wanne have even more money and try to contol it making everyone suffer. I just hate it, luckely Holland is quit tollerant on the matter, but thats only a verry smal part of the world. I sure hope some of those buisnesmen get some sort of revelation and forget about controling the internet or everyone is bothered by it.

[UrzuZero]

guys! they're starting to remove anime sites!!! HOLD THE OS FORT!

The sites are not being removed, just being removed from google immediate search, all the links can be seen at the omited links result link at the bottom of the search page. Your actions are causing un-needed panic @__@. If you are going to give a story please give the whole story so that you do not confuse everyone else and cause like I state earlier, un-needed panic. There are not gunning for O-S (directly) there is no call to arms. This is not a war between the Copywrite Police and O-S.

[vocaloid123]

I completely DISAGREE with SOPA/PIPA... Well, I just have to accept it... :(

[UrzuZero]

You dont have to accept it, Keeping Fighting it. The moment that people start to give up is the moment that it is all over. Sure we may have a small break now but this is far from over.

[quadcored]

@vocaloid123, you will just accept it without doing anything? *Facepalm*
Its like giving up on a race without starting your engine.


All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

[errilocale]

The Mega* shutdown indictment can be found here. noscript-hypebot.com/scribd.com/scribdassets.com
Read (http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2012/01/full-text-of-unsealed-megaupload-indictment.html)

I my opinion, The servers of Mega* should not have been shutdown. It is amazing to me that the grand jury signed off on this; since User's of the service, most definitely if paying for the storage, have every right to the complete privacy of content they upload and allow for download. This should not be sidestepped by any company with any sort of privacy policy. Now there will be some that will say "If you don't own the actual hardware, you have no expectation of privacy."- This is BS, If you are paying or a service- you should expect your privacy. (not just for your lowly CC info or personal info).

In truth, it is the "USER" that copies or uploads the content who committed the infringement; as is the "USER" who downloads the content/or views the content who committed the infringement**. In the case of MU*, they committed infringement when they broke privacy to their users and copied data across their network (too one or more different storage locations/servers). Now this could of been seen as to mitigate loss of data and provide additional backup in the event a specific server went offline or was overwhelmed by bandwidth, but the act occurred by the system mostly unbeknownst to the user. Although the more involved charge, paying of people to upload infringed materials to their servers, was the biggest "no-no".

**Everyone, IMO, has the right to make a media to media, or media to different media backup of any product the purchase. CD/DVD/BR/Game/Software/etc. This is to ensure that the product you purchased is reusable if anything should happen to the original.

[IF the FBI seized the server's] I hope people uploaded through a fairly decent proxy outside of a country that is friendly with the US or it's partners. As the logs are there and a data mine would be very problematic. Seized servers should have no expectation of privacy; especially if something has been committed on them leading them to become seized. One could even see this type of thing as being a way to back-end information to the biggest contributors who aren't so security conscience.

Do not think that this will stop at just America, well it might but that's doubtful. The UN with all their internationalist law progressivism will likely adopt something similar, if not already: ISOC PDF (http://www.isoc.org/pubpolpillar/docs/igfcopyright2011.pdf) of which, would in most cases require intrusive packet inspection along various node through-puts (encrypted or not) and violate further privacy. In America, the elites and persons who wish to control (communistic, fascistic, socialistic, marxist, socialist-capitalists ideologies ) either the people or the information one has disposal too are pushing for more and more control through fear and obfuscation.

Uploader privacy: BASH the logs of contributors.

All of this probably doesn't make much sense, but it's my 2-cents.

Erri

[Unholee]

What happend to megaupload is sad. This is far from the last thing we will se happen to our filehosting websites. This is pretty much the amercian goverment saying "oh yeah you dont want sopa... well we alredy have the authority so f**k you* excuse my use of bold language.
This will of course not stop here and its time for us the users of the internet we've grown to love. To stand up for it in order to keep our freedome of speech and freedome to share information.

-Unholee

[xxrashedxx]

Oh the most popular sites for uploading has been closed so...There is going to be more sites under danger..
This is so sad newss

[driftangle]

I feel ashamed, knowing it was my countries' higher-ups that caused all this trouble.


I'll co-sign on this .... all they see is money

[digi0009]

I know,it can actually even be the end of OS as we know it , Its sad how its becoming this way ....
I don't think this will have any positive effect on the world or on "The companies" profits , The people who buy stuff will continue and many will still not but stuff , At the end its a huge disadvantage for the consumers, Its sad that internet has come this way,

The best thing to do is to oppose it , and to leave to internet to the people not to the government, I guess they wish to go back to the past where everyone bought CD's and u could get no software or games , or anything computer related without money

[digi0009]

SOPA N PIPA are dead for now , but they won't stay that way forever, these people will probably try to pass such an act again , They have been trying to do this since a long time , But i seriously think they have not calculated the online community and its behavior towards such measures . Only time will tell , but As anonymous says "People should not be scared of their governments , Governments should be scared of their people "
This is clearly a wrong approach and step , i wonder what kind of future will such measures hold ?
Buy a book cause u are not allowed to see it online , as it is licensed
Same with anime or manga, many are licensed
Same with movies and music ,nearly all is licensed

[digi0009]

Warning: This is a General statement set at a general population of the crowd topic and not at any specific individuals though a few of you may find yourself right in the area I am talking about.

First off again, I dont support any of these bills except maybe OPEN. However, You guys need to be real with yourselfs. Come to the fact that, Piracy is indeed wrong, and its illegal and it always has been, its not just not being illegal. Sites like this is illegal, regardless of the reason here, we are all in the wrong, everyone here, the government, people who download stuff that has copy-write (I know I do.). None of us are total victims we all played a part in this and we are ALL in the wrong. I dont doubt this is more about Power than Piracy, I dont doubt that at all.

You can play the blame game all you want, but at least be honest with yourselves on what exactly is going on here. People work tirelessly around the clock to bring you these anime, mangas, Jdramas etc etc, just because you cant afford it doesnt make it any less wrong to pirate it or to share it. While I dont condon the sudden action of closing megauplod, I also dont condone see the people who did it as villainous because they have every right to do so the law says so. I know if I made my living of an Anime I wouldnt want to lose profits that support me because people dont want to pay for the product. These guys are not rich, the creators are not rich, the companies are but they are not the creators. They live off this stuff, their lifes work. Please think about all this the next time you are about to type out how unfair this all is, before you imply you have done nothing wrong, before you throw blame on an entire country and not yourself. This is how we got into this situation in the first place, by acting like that.

If I were these File share sites I would be afraid too, I would change the rules around as well. They have a terms of use and agreement, Pretty sure none of you read it (except maybe a few of you.), when you brake it they have every right to do what they need to do to set you right. I know a lot of you dont want to hear any of this, there will more than likely be a few of you that will try to contest my statements. I have downloaded anime, Manga, a few games, Music, Movies. I am part of the problem, I am a small chunk of the reason this situation is here now. I realize this already, when will you guys?

However as it has indeed been said the only thing we can do is work against ACTA (and for US Citizens CPACT (this is just as important.)) and hope to continue on as a community in hopefully a safe manner.



I agree , but what if you don't have stuff that you download online available in your nation ? I can't find mangas or anime in the nation i live in, let alone find the ones i like . Its not the same everywhere, also sometimes people just can't find the CD's , books and things they are looking, the next ting would be to order them , that would be even more costly , only a super rich can afford to spend that much , at the end it really doesn't do any good to common people

[Anfie]

(>O.O<)

[Vonny strife]

DDDDDDDDDDDD: why does the megaupload has been close by the goverment