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avich
01-18-2012, 11:29 AM
Update 1/20/2012

http://i.imgur.com/xqWbV.jpg



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(BLACKOUT Update 1/19/2012)
http://i.imgur.com/Tzx0O.jpg
PIPA support collapses, with 13 new Senators opposed (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/pipa-support-collapses-with-13-new-opponents-in-senate.ars)

SOPA blackouts lead to at least 10 senators withdrawing support! (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/19/technology/web-protests-piracy-bill-and-2-key-senators-change-course.html)


This is good news but its not over yet. Hopefully they aren't taking the popular stance now and in a bait-and-switch tactic later they quietly resume their support when they think the public has "forgotten".

Still, that's a huge sway in support in just one day of action!




To everyone who did what they can to be involved, good job! :)


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IMPORTANT!!one

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9075/sopau.jpg

Well not yet anyway...
But if we don't act soon, our freedom on the Internet will be taken from us.


This is our attempt to raise awareness to the on going battle against SOPA, PIPA and ACTA. I don't know if you noticed but all around the interwebs, websites are locked down or blacked out to show their protests against this very real threat.

Please take your time and read below (courtesy of reddit)


What is the intent of SOPA/PROTECT IP?

The stated intent of the bills is to provide tools for law enforcement and copyright holders to protect their intellectual property rights.


What’s wrong with protecting copyrights?

Nothing! The devil, as they say, is in the details. PROTECT IP and SOPA will cause too much collateral damage, have a high potential for abuse, and won't even be that effective at stopping the crimes they target. Read More details here... (http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technical-examination-of-sopa-and.html)

I'm not in the U.S. Why does this affect me?

Many of the sites that you may use (e.g. Google, Facebook, Wikipedia, etc.) are all affected by this law and will be required to hide offending domains from you.
If a non-U.S. site is blocked in the U.S., the site could suffer financially or even be bankrupted by the loss of U.S. traffic and revenue.


What are the differences between PROTECT IP and SOPA?

At a general level, the bills are very similar. SOPA, the "Stop Online Piracy Act," is from the House of Representatives, while the PROTECT IP Act is from the Senate. Either or both bills may pass a vote in their chamber of congress on their way to becoming law. Both must be defeated to end this threat. There have recently been more detailed explanations in an ELI5 thread (http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/ojcmy/eli5_what_is_pipa_and_how_is_it_different_from/) and alienth's blog post (http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technical-examination-of-sopa-and.html).


What about ACTA?

The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, or ACTA, is a multi-national agreement with similar goals to the U.S.-only PROTECT IP and SOPA bills. It is criticized for many of the same reasons that PROTECT IP and SOPA are, but is also concerning because it has been drafted in secret. ACTA is not the focus of this blackout but please take the time to learn more about ACTA (https://www.eff.org/issues/acta)

I'm not a U.S. citizen. How can I help?

You can still call or e-mail the U.S. representatives (sponsors of the bills would be a good choice). However, you may want to turn your attention more towards ACTA or other over-zealous copyright bills in your country.

You can also help by spreading awareness to everyone who are close to you.

I'm a U.S. citizen. How can I help?

Call your Senator or convince your parents to call in your behalf. (http://americancensorship.org/modal/call-form-moz.html)

OS was unable to join the blackout due to short notice. We wouldn't want our members to experience the shock, it would be too realistic. Though in the future if there are other joint black outs, OS will participate to show our support for the cause.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDX8Lyl16Qs





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Revelix
01-18-2012, 11:35 AM
When will the results be announced?

Rasen Oh
01-18-2012, 11:41 AM
When will the results be announced?

PIPA is supposed to receive a full vote on Jan 24 by the Senate. SOPA has been delayed without a new date.

TrueNoblesse
01-18-2012, 11:43 AM
It's like Library War allover....=.=

Revelix
01-18-2012, 11:46 AM
PIPA is supposed to receive a full vote on Jan 24 by the Senate. SOPA has been delayed without a new date.

ok, thx Rasen-kun

Ragnarok
01-18-2012, 11:49 AM
Nothing can really stop piracy but anyway... we'll just spread the hate and see what happens~

tanxcb
01-18-2012, 12:11 PM
Post update/edit (20 Jan 2012)
Congrats on the collapse of SOPA and PIPA.
This may be a victory for the internet.
This result was somewhat predicted.
Wikipedia's blackout protest has made it come under fire for its neutral policy. Also, students using it as a resource were upset, but you could easily bypass the redirect. (thanks darkpoetry
(http://otaku-streamers.com/community/member.php?796-darkpoetry) post 14)
Of course, Google and big companies wouldn't blackout. They're listed on the stock exchange. But they did express displeasure upon hearing of SOPA and PIPA.
OS is hosted in Netherlands now... thanks Jim (http://otaku-streamers.com/community/member.php?1-jbluey) (post 13)

Also, megaupload has been shut down.
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About time this was announced on OS. I heard about it somewhere else but it was protesting against another issue (still related to SOPA)

Good that now our community knows about it, and hopefully do something about it.
At the moment it is however unlikely that the motion will be successfully passed in the near future, but a toned down version or similar attempts in the future are foreseeable.

OS is on a US server is it not?

vaikepois
01-18-2012, 12:12 PM
if this law will be fully accepted.. THEN! Il look forwards for World War 3 and kill those f**ers !

dragonXeye
01-18-2012, 12:15 PM
alot of unpleasant things will happen after this i know it,

nodame10
01-18-2012, 12:25 PM
What the ^@*&!!! Are the americans thinking!!!!

-__________-

noobster
01-18-2012, 12:34 PM
wtf.......

tfioi
01-18-2012, 12:38 PM
Yup, posting about this on facebook and other social networks. This must not pass cause if the Americans pass this, so will EU later on....

No more free internet :\

jbluey
01-18-2012, 12:40 PM
About time this was announced on OS. I heard about it somewhere else but it was protesting against another issue (still related to SOPA)

Good that now our community knows about it, and hopefully do something about it.
At the moment it is however unlikely that the motion will be successfully passed in the near future, but a toned down version or similar attempts in the future are foreseeable.

OS is on a US server is it not?

nope OS is hosted in netherlands~

darkpoetry
01-18-2012, 12:44 PM
About time this was announced on OS. I heard about it somewhere else but it was protesting against another issue (still related to SOPA)

Good that now our community knows about it, and hopefully do something about it.
At the moment it is however unlikely that the motion will be successfully passed in the near future, but a toned down version or similar attempts in the future are foreseeable.

OS is on a US server is it not?

I believe its in Europe, the Netherlands?
http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/otaku-streamers.com
Either way, if the bill is passed, your ISP will be required to block the domain if you are in the US even if they can't take it down.
Which means you will need a proxy to view OS.

I suspect that if this bill is passed then people will start depending on proxy networks which will lead to people discovering far worse illegal activities...
Once proxy networks become mainstream the moral level of america is going to drop like a brick

beetbandle
01-18-2012, 12:44 PM
WTH with this american senators,i declare war to america lol, even wikipedia is having problem with it.

tfioi
01-18-2012, 12:45 PM
nope OS is hosted in netherlands~

<3 Lucky

Still, far from safe :\

darkpoetry
01-18-2012, 12:48 PM
WTH with this american senators,i declare war to america lol, even wikipedia is having problem with it.

Ya, wiki is big on free information of any kind.
Wiki will have a much harder time maintaining a legal balance and citing sources.

btw, if you want to view Wikipedia, just block the javascript
all they did was just layer a script over the original page, which is much easier on their part than replacing all the pages

beetbandle
01-18-2012, 12:51 PM
Ya, wiki is big on free information of any kind.
Wiki will have a much harder time maintaining a legal balance and citing sources.

btw, if you want to view Wikipedia, just block the javascript
all they did was just layer a script over the original page, which is much easier on their part than replacing all the pages

Thanks for the info it really helps :)

MRraindrop
01-18-2012, 12:54 PM
MRraindrop does not like this.... the internet is owned by no one and yet here they are, trying to own it...

Juuri
01-18-2012, 01:08 PM
seriously the people who made these bils are lunatics and don't know even how to coperate with a computer........... hope the FBI, CIA or whatever american org won't lock me up for saying this XD

Juuri
01-18-2012, 01:11 PM
nope OS is hosted in netherlands~

Yeah but I don't know if you know, the current goverment in the netherlands also wants to do same as america. Our house of representative (it's called de tweedekamer) have to set a date to discuse this bill.

DacKeith
01-18-2012, 01:22 PM
They would not stop internet piracy!!
In my point of view they just want to control the internet!!

Aisu Kurimu
01-18-2012, 01:25 PM
That's really awful and alarming.. I've noticed some of the websites are down too.. It was just here that I realized something was really going on behind those websites. If they weren't talking about it a while ago in the sb, I shouldn't have known.

Well then, time to get to work. There is this game I know which has many American Citizens in it, although a large population of it were minors. Anyway, i'll try to reach out. Thanks for this useful post.

Kumo no Yoru
01-18-2012, 01:34 PM
These acts are absolutely ridiculous. What is going to be lost and what is going to be gained are completely outweighed - the losses are too high and the gain is too minimal. If these acts come to pass, freedoms that everyone have a right to, will be decimated. How much further is the American Government going to change personal freedoms for their own small gain?

aropruett
01-18-2012, 01:44 PM
nooooo!!! i will die if this site dies :'(

Ravenrosail
01-18-2012, 01:58 PM
Hmm... it seems i can offer my knowllage at OS.

I am Expert with these things us my old logo use to show, i own a secret organasation H.S.P (Hack Support Personel).

If an admin see's this, I can offer a chance so no one can touch this Web-site.

Well its simple really, all you have to do is to make it Privete, Privete IP, Privete http:// and Privete cookies (Data transfer via. internet conection).

If your incription is locked they can't touch you.

i hope i helped a little.

P.S
I can always help if there is a way but, i need support as well with a simple answer.

ALL HAIL OS !!!

darkpoetry
01-18-2012, 02:09 PM
Hmm... it seems i can offer my knowllage at OS.

I am Expert with these things us my old logo use to show, i own a secret organasation H.S.P (Hack Support Personel).

If an admin see's this, I can offer a chance so no one can touch this Web-site.

Well its simple really, all you have to do is to make it Privete, Privete IP, Privete http:// and Privete cookies (Data transfer via. internet conection).

If your incription is locked they can't touch you.

i hope i helped a little.

P.S
I can always help if there is a way but, i need support as well with a simple answer.

ALL HAIL OS !!!

pffffff~ hacker... ya right
I doubt you can even code if you misspelled "private" which is a keyword in Java and C++
Its called not indexing, thats all you really have to do to have it hidden or be part of the "deep web"
But whats the point of doing that?
Making OS a hidden site is going in the complete opposite direction

And the bill can't touch websites and companies based in other countries anyways.
What the bill does is block access to it

n3m0s
01-18-2012, 02:19 PM
Where is the freedom of the net?

mokochan013
01-18-2012, 02:21 PM
-sighs- wrong move senators net peeps wont stay silent about this . . . but we cant blame them for copyrighting

innovatio
01-18-2012, 02:25 PM
But how will this affect OS if the server`s in the Netherlands?
The Netherlands have always been a country where the people hold the most power.
Even if the US will pass that bill.. The Netherlands will probably never allow it.. We got legallized weed and other drugs.. gay-marriages in the whole country. Drinking age of 16. The Netherlands have always done their own thing. Part of our government are even thinking of quitting with the Euro-coins..

I might be oblivious to stuff here though, just ranting. But curious nonetheless

jadeliciousdk
01-18-2012, 02:32 PM
nope OS is hosted in netherlands~

Netherlands just gained another point in my book and scores a total of 4!!!

1. Hosting OS
2. Legalized weed
3. Just like a giant pancake, totally flat. Great for people who hate going uphill
4. Eutanasi, which will be very much needed should SOPA pass. (Eutanasi is the right for people get help killing themselves should they wish to do so, currently only for people who have nothing to live for, terminal illnesses, bad traumas etc. I believe emotional stress and loss of life quality due to SOPA will be a sufficient argument)

asadeasabe
01-18-2012, 02:34 PM
alternate version of the end of the world.. :D but truly , it sucks big time for that bill to ever come to law ....

aznlis123
01-18-2012, 02:58 PM
yea i heard of this SOPA... they have this all over youtube... this bill is so... :omg:

yes we need to stop this bill before this is pass! Act fast and deny that bill ASAP!!!!!

yes I am one of billions who is stoping this bill.

My Opinion:

Why are you mad about someone taking your video and copyrighting it? I thought that internet is a place to get your ideas and to share your creation, And yet many people are still complaining about their video being taken. This bill is worthless because It's going to take your rights to use the internet and It's going to destroy many important websites like wikipedia, youtube, facebook, any website that shares info or idea's that you get from the creations you made. It's also going to destroy many job opportunities for you that you have or a dream job that you like. Also, you are going to lose websites that may involve education, for example : kckps.org (my districts school website) are going to be lost by this bill. Many of this bill is going to destroy society and economic usage such as dangers with the defense of our country and cause a lot of destruction to our security which will cause problems to our country. Please, I tell you to deny this bill.

Thank you.

vaikepois
01-18-2012, 03:31 PM
Great.. even greatest anime song site is down right now cuz of SOPA -.- oh god how i hate this thing! If this will be accepted i can imagine cyberwar xD

Suffle
01-18-2012, 03:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwuXNv8fJM

holyvampire9
01-18-2012, 03:47 PM
On behalf of the american is protesting over the bill.... or rather they bought it ..... we Filipinos on behalf should voice out to so we as OTAKU STREAMERS should support this VERY BEST SITE... im gonna do what im gonna do :)

Reizero
01-18-2012, 03:49 PM
whaat now there is an ACTA? i thought sopa and protect ip were both jokes when i first heard of it in november. i signed 5 petitions, sent a spam of emails, and this is still threatening us?? when is it going to stop T_T

ps. i almost broke down when i saw that os was going to be down forever, even if it's not true right now, it could become reality if any of these bills are passed. CALL!

umeboshi
01-18-2012, 03:49 PM
"███ ████████ ██████ ██████████ ██ ████ ██ ████ ██████████ ██ ███ ███ This comment has been found in violation of H.R. 3261, S.O.P.A and has been removed."

In the future, THIS ^ could happen, if the SOPA and PIPA bills pass.
I hope that as many people as possible will hear about this and take actions, sign for campaigns, phone the congress, anything. Deviantart now too has their own campaign, where you sketch something related to the topic to spread awareness.

Together, we have the chances to win, but only if we act! And that means we ALL have to act.
Here is also the list of SOPA supporters, just click the link: http://clevella.deviantart.com/journal/SOPA-supporters-280011765

Edit: Also the links to sites where you can sign up to show that you're against SOPA and PIPA:
http://americancensorship.org/
http://sopastrike.com/
https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/
https://blacklist.eff.org/

ZetsuRavez
01-18-2012, 03:53 PM
i heard about this i while ago... but i never thought that it was real!!!
i should spread the news about this....

jojo1
01-18-2012, 03:55 PM
When this happens, It's like they Declare a war to the Whole World....

keroa
01-18-2012, 03:56 PM
this isnt cool at all dont people know that this is just going to make people think of a better way to steel things i mean come on look at the past people used to get robed for there money now its identy frad

Juuri
01-18-2012, 04:05 PM
But how will this affect OS if the server`s in the Netherlands?
The Netherlands have always been a country where the people hold the most power.
Even if the US will pass that bill.. The Netherlands will probably never allow it.. We got legallized weed and other drugs.. gay-marriages in the whole country. Drinking age of 16. The Netherlands have always done their own thing. Part of our government are even thinking of quitting with the Euro-coins..

I might be oblivious to stuff here though, just ranting. But curious nonetheless

Yeah but I don't know if you know, the current goverment in the netherlands also wants to do same as america. Our house of representative (it's called de tweedekamer) have to set a date to discuse this bill. We have a conservative goverment and the largest party called the VVD wants to the same in as in US with copy right thing. The whole discussion with Bum Sterma (its a dutch company that holds all the copyright in Holland) or something like that.

and about the weed and drugs it won't be available for foregneirs anymore only for local dutch people and you have to get a special pass to get your soft drugs. So a no no for foregneirs that come to Amsterdam for the coffee shop..

cronos23
01-18-2012, 05:07 PM
wow.. the shit breaks the net now... GODDAMMIT! they just want to earn more money for themselves... if we put it in their "UNNOTICED" custom.. they just want site holders to bribe them..

so if they cut down all the sites that does not fit their conditions.. then maybe 60% and up of the mass of sites will be suspended.. shit brix men.. :angry:

protect ip is just their alibi.. wew..

LET THEM EAT SHIT.. :angry:

coldground93
01-18-2012, 05:17 PM
I think many companies have very high profits even if piracy is rampant.. urgh how greedy can they get?

sirretnuh
01-18-2012, 05:42 PM
We must rebel My Otaku brothers and sisters destroy these acts that will stop us from useing this Great site

sirretnuh
01-18-2012, 05:45 PM
post the IP adress so we can get to this site even if they block the page domain
IP Example= (192.168.40.1)

AzraelVega
01-18-2012, 05:53 PM
It's like they said one time: The bigwigs were caught off guard by the internet and didn't know how to deal with it. So of course the people in charge just decide that if they can't understand it, might as well control it. So of the posters here are right. If Congress actually passes this most heinous of garbage, then it'll start a ripple effect. If there's talk that Iran and China have something similar in place right now, well then that means America is just trying to make the country like those. Bottom line, the net was free for all of us. Good, bad, it was always free. Why do we have to suffer?

muddz
01-18-2012, 05:56 PM
If this becomes a law. We're all doomed!

No way!!!!!
The disadvantages outweigh the advantages! [me being very subjective]
Am I seeing a peek at the beginning of World War III? A fight over the internet.

notorios
01-18-2012, 06:15 PM
this crap is so f-ed up,us will screw the world economy AGAIN if this gets 2 be

takasuryuuji
01-18-2012, 06:17 PM
I hope this problem will end soon and the outcome will be in favor with us.
All hail OS

aznlis123
01-18-2012, 06:41 PM
I hope we live through this internet crisis... I want to access Otaku and live through my peaceful life with internet.

IRunOnRamen
01-18-2012, 06:55 PM
Ugh. How...... annoying. It's totally unreasonable. Internet is part of our lives. So are social networks. So are streaming sites. bleh.

aznlis123
01-18-2012, 06:58 PM
I'm guessing that team ANONYMOUS was right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeEcoi8kEuU&feature=related

Homura
01-18-2012, 07:00 PM
well im not for this.

and i sense rebellion and anarchy following if it does

leonx2
01-18-2012, 07:02 PM
$&*^%*&## American Senate Idiots who's country is democratic who wants to remove the freedom in using internet %#%$#&

jtran1
01-18-2012, 07:19 PM
Those...idiots. This will never work and if they look at the facts it is a EPIC fail. We need to stop them before they do something stupid again. Can't believe I live in the US and these idiots...

silentcry07
01-18-2012, 07:21 PM
the congress and senate just want to have a controlled over the information for the future around the world that will benefit them, mostly, to hide fact, and make a false information spread, to make the information/news favor to them.

im against to this act and law.

mosesprophet
01-18-2012, 07:28 PM
damn...! if this happen, maybe 3/4 of all websites will be gone! I REFUSE..!

kellybang
01-18-2012, 07:30 PM
this is worth protesting for. STOP SOPA AND PIPA!!!!

credential23
01-18-2012, 08:07 PM
Screw this bill..! Better find my stones and prepare for the stone-age.. Dont touch the internet you freaking corrupt government!!

thermonuke
01-18-2012, 08:23 PM
if ever i have a Death Note, i will write those senators' names on the Death Note together with all the people who support PIPA, ACTA, and SOPA!!! grrr

Silverhand
01-18-2012, 08:25 PM
Us League of Legends players are doing our part to stave off SOPA and PIPA. As a member of OS, SOPA bringing this site down sure as hell doesn't sit well with me. Here are some of the efforts Riot Games and us League of Legends players are making to put an end to this stuff.

http://solemnsilver.tumblr.com/post/15759714761/credits-to-eat-orange-be-k <=== image macros

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMXUhmnD3MQ <=== interview of a Colorado congressman about his views on SOPA who is also a League of Legends player and the picture below is his post in the League of Legends forums

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p276/HoraBreaker/380162_355645617782397_100000108850356_1543462_214 6937089_n-1.jpg

kiruakun
01-18-2012, 08:43 PM
I really want to beat the person who thought these frakken bills up.
WHYYYY is the american government run by a bunch of retards!!! UGGGGGG...
They make me embarassed to be American T____T

IrishMonkee
01-18-2012, 08:49 PM
I'm glad to see there are others also interested in this sort of thing, esp since OS is a .com. I usually stay up to day on things like this an other Internet assassins over at Ars Technica. I really hope none of these laws get the chance to be voted on. The laws in general are absolutely absurd and will cripple the internet while give big content the power to do as they please. If the MPAA and RIAA were in charge of producing, selling, and marketing horse drawn buggies, they would have tried to do any and all things possible to stop Henry Ford.

hnnryy
01-18-2012, 09:05 PM
well i live in mexico an os server its even in USA so i got no problem the trafic coming from us its not that big but i dont know about donors and where they live so we got a problem :C

GMSieghart
01-18-2012, 09:11 PM
All i know that this Sopa and Piapa! will destroy our Site and other site ! men i cant imagine an internet without free knowledge animes and manga! !its fraustating !

zixepher
01-18-2012, 09:48 PM
I think these is why korean and american was fighting for? do you think?

gala1221
01-18-2012, 09:57 PM
As I expected, sooner or later this would hit OS. Even Wikipedia is doing a protest which is what brought my attention to SOPA and PIPA. I just hope these kind of things will never be suggested again and that this time, the vote will not work in their favour else we'll really have nothing to do on the internet.


I think these is why korean and american was fighting for? do you think?

All I know is that, Obama said that he would not support such an act.

shadowgear33
01-18-2012, 10:03 PM
I'm american and I think this is sure stupid. I understand that they think they are going to make things better but in the long run it will destroy the internet. The government does not need this much control over everything in the world there are a lot more real problems facing the U.S that this is just an escape goat for the falling economy.

Yullenpyon
01-18-2012, 10:05 PM
I think this law is extremely stupid, and has no legal ground to stand on, because while these laws attempt to stop piracy, which is of significant importance, and there is a rational connection, since piracy does damage the economy and is illegal, the benefits of this law are greatly outweighed by the restrictions it places on people's legal rights and freedoms (something which the States are very BIG on, which makes even less sense on why the American senate would even consider a law that restricts the freedoms of the American people) and lastly the fact that this law in no way minimally impares citizens, considering the fact that the government blocks and or takes down the websites people use.

If this law where to go to the House of Commons in Canada (Canadian legal courts) it would be struck down by Section 1(otherwise known as the Oakes Test) of The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. For those of you who don't know Section 1 of the CCRF is a way to justify whether a law is valid, and must meet requirements (which were previiously mention) in order for a law to be justifiable. This law that the States wishes to pass would fail Canada's section 1 test because it is too extreme of a law that impares and infringes on the rights of the American citizens and citizens of the world. This law is a too extreme way to control piracy,(which wont work for very long either if people have anything to say about) and cannot in any sane person's mind be a justifiable way to control piracy.

There are better way to control piracy than restricting the freedom of all nation's citizens with this law. The American Senate better think long and hard about the implications this law will have on not only the American people, all nation's citizens, but also on every country's economy (including their own). The American Senate and government better be prepared for a full blown war if this law gets passed because people are not going to be happy one bit, and I don't blame them one bit. Look out American goverment because you are digging your own grave, and are going to have to lie in it sooner or later.

alecard
01-18-2012, 10:33 PM
i can't believe this is happening....lets all stand against those tyrants and hope those bills wont push through....this may affect us all and our future. .

Lukey3d
01-18-2012, 10:44 PM
i hate to say this but i live in the uk and we're so far behind its not funny. Without sites like OS im in the dark ages when it comes to anime. im sickend too see more legislation against the wider viewing of anything. i cant even buy fairy tail on blu ray

bluespirit21
01-18-2012, 10:47 PM
OS I support whatever decision you make regarding the black outs. I love this site and i don't want to see it go down because some senators want Hollywood to make more money.

Avykun
01-18-2012, 11:15 PM
I will stand by and fight with os and the rest of the world who want to stop the bills from passing if the bills pass the world we know it will come to an end :(

FIGHT ON OS!!!!!!!!

DinnerATTACK
01-18-2012, 11:40 PM
I'm really scare of what could happen next. I'm mexican and I love meeting people all over the world. I love otaku-streamers and I don't want it to be closed ):

nataku411
01-18-2012, 11:46 PM
I'm glad I'm moving to Grand Cayman. But seriously, I don't think people will realize the danger until they pass. We have to raise support for this. I'm encouraging all my friends to fight against SOPA, PIPA and ACTA. What will you do?

inubazh11
01-18-2012, 11:50 PM
Its too late to control the interwebz.

flamepan
01-18-2012, 11:52 PM
i feel like im the only person who knew about these things till like last month or so. eh better late then never right?

Reki Kanaede
01-19-2012, 12:00 AM
fcuk the person who proposed the bill ~

IRunOnRamen
01-19-2012, 01:04 AM
We should take sopa and pipa.
And move it somewhere else.

UrzuZero
01-19-2012, 01:05 AM
Thing is most of you are late, this all started last year (and was drafted long long before that.) and just now People are trying to do something about it? That doesnt make any kind of sense @__@. SOPA however was redrafted, something many of you dont know (I can tell by your comments) so it doesnt effect everything like it did before and its not as bad as it was before. However the general concept is still bad, PIPA (which has not been re-drafted) has always been bad. However

Im pretty sure its not going to pull through, the reason SOPA has not a date to be talked about again is because it was "shelved". They are not talking on it any more for an indefinite amount of time. Now, People need to see and realize that and Focus more attention on PIPA because its not getting as much attention as it should for that very reason. After the Persident and the White House came out and said they do not support SOPA it was Shelved, they said the same about PIPA but PIPA hasnt met as much fight as SOPA has. Why because everyone is so Concerned with SOPA that PIPA is just sliding under the radar. People need to realize that. If the US Citizens (Not American Citizens, since this is in the US, it is US citizens, America is a Continent just saying XD) had bothered to protest this a LOT sooner (not just U.S. Citizens but everyone) I would bet it wouldnt have gotten as to the point where it is now.

To everyone here Blaming the US, dont think your off the hook, many of your countries Leaders Also support this bill so dont think its just the US. The Government and the People are to blame. The government for being the government (This is not the first time they have pulled something like this and it wont be the last.), and the People for not being up on their news or not caring enough to show this is not what they wanted A LONG time ago when this was first introduced. Still All in all, it should be ok. They know one thing, they cant get voted back into office without the support of US citizens.

The president also knows that, every can. running for president is against the bill, even if it passes, it will be veto'd and repealed. The president doesnt support it, the People dont support it, Many Major Businesses dont Support it, only the greedy and the stubborn support this. Its a stacked fight, there is no reason to get so upset.

kimono031
01-19-2012, 01:30 AM
@UrzuZero: Exactly. Many of the lawmakers supporting the bills have decided to withdraw their support, and the PIPA co-sponsor decided to stop supporting the bill, which in turn made the bill lose a lot of credibility.

ganarok
01-19-2012, 01:33 AM
What the hell is wrong with the author of these laws, they act all high and mighty that they write these half ass laws regarding copyright infringement within internet when they don't have any significant experience regarding this line of work!

I hope this law will just be thrown to a trash can or shredder... Brrrrrr!:angry1:

DacKeith
01-19-2012, 01:51 AM
Anonymous might be right this time!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GYzD-8BOQU&feature=related


Operation Blackout!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9iOSg9CHTI

cytotecboyz
01-19-2012, 01:52 AM
pre try mo post sa ABS-CBN FB page about sa SOPA,PIPA,ACTA BILL......para alam naman ng mga PINOY ano nangyayari sa CYBERWORLD...

cleomarie
01-19-2012, 02:08 AM
I dunno how this will end. But if it happens that this will be implemented, it would probably cause a cyber warfare.

nekolover
01-19-2012, 02:11 AM
I believe its in Europe, the Netherlands?
http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/otaku-streamers.com
Either way, if the bill is passed, your ISP will be required to block the domain if you are in the US even if they can't take it down.
Which means you will need a proxy to view OS.

I suspect that if this bill is passed then people will start depending on proxy networks which will lead to people discovering far worse illegal activities...
Once proxy networks become mainstream the moral level of america is going to drop like a brick

not only will the us moral level will go down but most companies offering proxy service might start charging people for proxy services.
Passing these bills is not like robbing people of their freedom.
PASSSING THESE WILL DEFINITELY ROB PEOPLE OF THEIR FREEDOM.
DOWN WITH SOPA, PIPA, ACTA AND OTHER SIMILAR BILLS THAT TRIES TO TAMPER W/ INERNET FREEDOM!!
:angry1:

limited145
01-19-2012, 02:32 AM
This bill is not a good point for all internet users. the freedom is taken from us, i'll go fight against it too.:angry::redcard:

[anne000]
01-19-2012, 03:11 AM
If SOPA, PIPA and ACTA continues... bye-bye internet...
* (No offense) People who made this are lunatics...

error345
01-19-2012, 03:17 AM
Obama Stops Controversial SOPA Internet Piracy Bill

read here http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/obama-stops-controversial-sopa-internet-piracy-bill/

jeffnat19
01-19-2012, 03:21 AM
i pay for my net, why the hell should they the net? internet is free and its my right to use it for my bidding.

and leave wikipedia alone, damn it... that site helped me survive college because that site made US-only books available here in the PH through excerpts and stuffs.

Sora Kasugano
01-19-2012, 03:57 AM
Everything is just too fast and too shocking for me to Follow-up and Relate. Good Luck and I hope we'll get the good Results, I'll be waiting for the Final Announcements~

x3unleashed
01-19-2012, 04:41 AM
i've heard about SOPA, i think about last year when i was watching some guy vid and i dont understand a freaking bit thing about it, but i do know that

SOPA MUST BE STOPED

Zyrille
01-19-2012, 05:01 AM
This is nonsense, these SOPA, ACTA, PIPA, or whatever they are are bullshit. They just made the internet more worst for those who always uses these kind of things. All I want is just to watch some damn anime in this website. I don't care if they remove facebook or youtube or Wikipidea. I really don't care (because I don't even know those websites except for youtube). Why they don't stop??? Remove anything just not the following websites :
www.crunchyroll.com
www.otaku-streamers.com
I wish the people would go into a rally and start protesting just to stop this nonsense.

outlaw313
01-19-2012, 05:08 AM
We Should Pray for OS.... ^^

meyuhaya
01-19-2012, 05:27 AM
I can't believe these rumors about taking away the internet. They're ridiculous!!!

kira1
01-19-2012, 05:37 AM
Wtf !!!

Aisu Kurimu
01-19-2012, 05:38 AM
If you are against SOPA and PIPA post this under your signature. I will be gladly giving out the URL for this image:

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee471/noisyice34/vdfdfgdf.jpg

here is the URL: http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee471/noisyice34/vdfdfgdf.jpg

lacus99
01-19-2012, 05:39 AM
i will not accept this
this site will not go down without a fight
i will not believe the rumors going on

jeiru01
01-19-2012, 05:48 AM
Yeah but I don't know if you know, the current goverment in the netherlands also wants to do same as america. Our house of representative (it's called de tweedekamer) have to set a date to discuse this bill.

Oh dear.. I was actually relaxed to know that it was hosted in Netherlands, then I saw this. NOOOOOOOOOO.

That sopa and pipa should not be passed. There are lots of people and websites who will be affected, and I am so not gonna agree especially because it can affect OS. It doesn't make sense. Why change something that has already been there for a while. A lto are already contented with this, plus how about our homeworks, our researches! How about our OS community and our online friends, how about the way we can communicate with our family members? EVERYTHIIING! NO.

I object! There is no point in attacking the internet anyway. Why don't they just focus on the difficulties in their economy. I do not think that this bill will be implemented, but I do not want it to be passed. There are a lot of things that will be affected when this is passed.

alienfufi
01-19-2012, 05:53 AM
Don't die OS!!!! T_____________T

benito18
01-19-2012, 06:20 AM
they just do it for their own personal intentions, they didn't even think what is the feelings of the users in the internet the law should not be execute let's stop them.

cmaloba
01-19-2012, 06:31 AM
There are many websites that will be affected with these laws....
so it means

INTERNET WILL BE USELESS..if this continues

vanrald08
01-19-2012, 06:34 AM
F**k SOPA and PIPA! Drink beer and take action!


If posting a link is bad... please delete my post but please take action my friends

https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

Kudos!


ALL HAIL OS!

asakalayat
01-19-2012, 06:40 AM
hahaha WORLD WAR 3 Coming XD well not really... it will be 1 against 1million and thats the minimum you cant approve such law!

Bloody Envy
01-19-2012, 06:51 AM
i think my classmates prediction a month ago is gonna come true.. " the americans is going to drop a bomb over our heads" but i hope not.. the net is everybody's freedom.. the american goverment can't just simply cut its leg to make it their own pet.. they really can't.. if that happens then the other countries might come next.. then everything will go back into darkness again.. maybe we could say that almost 90% of the world net users depend on other countries to have a shoulder to cling to in time of "need".. *sigh* i hope that bill don't get approved..:haix:

rakusa
01-19-2012, 06:52 AM
Oh my Gosh!!
as in, Oh my GOsh!
i heard it on the news, and i didn't know that we can be affected!! :/

hope OS won't close down! without OS, then what's the use of my internet connection! xD

i hope the bill won't pass.

blackops42
01-19-2012, 06:56 AM
Somebody has to do something about this shit! >:O

powerband
01-19-2012, 07:09 AM
Hmm if you think about it actually they may have a standing point about big industrial giants losing billions of dollars due to piracy, but then again stepping into such industry they must already have known about such risk. Yet what they should do to solve the problem is to really form better relations with the consumers, not treat consumers as their own rights to generating revenue without the contend for consumers' feelings and adoration. By supporting such bill may in turn cause more problems not just for the consumers and general internet uses around the world, limiting creativity and freedom of speech and its rights, i feel the congress must fully understand what they really are the effects and negatives of such a bill. I wonder what really is the thoughts of such industrial giants pressuring the US congress into such a disastrous bill, SOPA. To me it seems that money is all it matters, not the consumers. There is so much about this bill that shows much ugliness and greed more then justice. The internet is a not owned or created by and country or person, it is there, just plain cyber space, a country that feel its doing justice has no rights what-so-ever about enforcing a law that may affect the rest of the world.

hahaha i just need some way to release my thoughts. i just hope that the world would support AGAINST SOPA. Really SOPA is being a pain in the...





EDIT: OMG YAY I LOVE YOU THE 13 SENATORS!!!!!

Raynold
01-19-2012, 07:26 AM
I hope that law isnt going to be aplyed because its seems like a bullshit to introduce them,they dont think at all....Maybe they need some brains about that i will guess its gona be a gathering of some who revolt of these companies,laws that ban this shit.I hope that it will remain free everytime
@power
Its true the pyraci its overwhelming but it does help those who dosen't have money to spend to buy a windows or a software each time a new apears so they result to a tracker where there are free aplications,games and other stuff.I ask you want to pay for everything new that apears and u want to play or watch?I have seen a report from work that the microsoft corporation lost aproximatley 6.970.342.17$
because loders existed you realize this is from this year but think again it would help us alot to have this free software.
Long Live Otaku-Streamers:X
Hope that law isnt aproved

Raynold
01-19-2012, 07:27 AM
That was my tought.Go against SOPA.
Sorry for double post

MiroAvlas
01-19-2012, 07:59 AM
This must not be passed!!

Biak911
01-19-2012, 08:38 AM
I can't graduate without Piracy!!

beetbandle
01-19-2012, 08:44 AM
Horay!!!

dionisio
01-19-2012, 08:46 AM
delete the porn site's not the anime site !!!

gwapo
01-19-2012, 08:52 AM
what the !!!!!!!!!! >:( no more entertainment !!!!!

aropruett
01-19-2012, 09:09 AM
Where is the freedom of the net?

To tell you that don't give a junk about it. They are trying to keep the net safe and etc...

aropruett
01-19-2012, 09:10 AM
Somebody has to do something about this shit! >:O
All you can do is vote against it, but it still sucks since we truly cant do crap.

Yakuzaku
01-19-2012, 09:20 AM
Good news so many withdraw in one day, but the fight is still on, OS shall not fall!!!

Liesianthes
01-19-2012, 09:26 AM
world war 3 will come if this law passed but this time it will be on the internet world..

jolo012
01-19-2012, 09:54 AM
thanks for the info..........

yan2x01
01-19-2012, 10:02 AM
these laws won't push through... because for the fact that when it backfires their loses would be astronomical.. its like if this happens (1)its a natural boycott on the part of consumers/viewers and 2 they do not want to lose free advertising do they.

animejohnboy
01-19-2012, 10:15 AM
How can we find out if there more too come. and if so you konw it will be keep a secret too get the vote in under the table type of stuff will slip in ?

reneiru
01-19-2012, 11:16 AM
May i Kill them? :D

Nurmi
01-19-2012, 11:29 AM
http://termite.apcdn.com/full/54840.png

DacKeith
01-19-2012, 11:41 AM
I just have one question.. How can we help to stop this? I mean if your outside US and in UK?

UrzuZero
01-19-2012, 11:50 AM
After Reading Everyones Comments I think I should say this. Violence only begets Violence, and it is not something to joke about. Also to fully understand the issue you do need to see it from both sides of the looking glass. Here is a place where we watch anime for free, but you know that its illegal right? Grey part of the law or not its copy write infringement. Scanlations are no different. What most otakus do is what is easily pinned to stealing profit.

Everytime you post a video, share a link, your taking profit away from the creators. You may think this makes the greedy but guess what, its their creation. They worked hard on it, many of you don't know this but Manga-ka are not very well paid, many of them are struggling and live off the profits of their creation. What do you think happens when a site like this goes up? When Scanlation Teams do new releases? People Buy less anime, less manga. Sure they gain more fans, but they can live off that. I dont agree with the bills, however you all do need to understand how it got to this point and why. Its not without reason. I work in the game industry, the amount of games that end up pirated is sickening.

People pour their hearts, souls, and time into this stuff and others would rather steal it out right than help the developers and producers (that doesnt apply to everyone, I understand that certain content is not available in certain areas.). I love this site, I do. However many of you need the reality check of seeing this from all sides, and not just the one. Just look back, remember that group of Manga-Ka that got together and pulled law suits? Ever wonder what happened to OneManga.com? How MangaFox was also in the crosshairs? This was only the next step guys. Remember, looking at a situation from only one side makes you ignorant of many facts that make up that situation. /realitycheck

I know some if not many of you will disagree but this is the truth and you know it. Continue the fight PIPA.

UrzuZero
01-19-2012, 11:51 AM
Urggh, Sorry about the double post @__@

Liberator
01-19-2012, 12:30 PM
This is a video I saw on facebook that simplifies SOPA/PIPA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzqMoOk9NWc&feature=share

Suffle
01-19-2012, 12:30 PM
Everytime you post a video, share a link, your taking profit away from the creators. You may think this makes the greedy but guess what, its their creation. the amount of games that end up pirated is sickening.

People pour their hearts, souls, and time into this stuff and others would rather steal it out right than help the developers and producers

I am pretty sure everyone here looks at it from both sides, considering we're all pirates on this fourms(streaming anime ftw!)

We all know that the people making the product gets scammed whenever we watch/listen,etc without paying for it, like watching anime/reading manga.

However those are fairly restricted, like i am not able to watch anime in my country without buying a DVD not knowing what the series is about, i mean sure i can read reviews from other people, watch a commercial but it really never gives an good first impression.

If its somthing i like then i will buy it for supporting the creator, for example when skyrim and saints row the third came out i was broke, and still waiting for payment, however being lazy me i pirated it. And when my money came flowing in i bought both games, Same goes for music, if theres an artist/band that i like and films.

Also keep in mind that most people pirating dont have an access to the product or their simply in there for the checking(streaming anime, reading manga on sites,watch films, or their simply just pirates

aropruett
01-19-2012, 12:31 PM
After Reading Everyones Comments I think I should say this. Violence only begets Violence, and it is not something to joke about. Also to fully understand the issue you do need to see it from both sides of the looking glass. Here is a place where we watch anime for free, but you know that its illegal right? Grey part of the law or not its copy write infringement. Scanlations are no different. What most otakus do is what is easily pinned to stealing profit.

Everytime you post a video, share a link, your taking profit away from the creators. You may think this makes the greedy but guess what, its their creation. They worked hard on it, many of you don't know this but Manga-ka are not very well paid, many of them are struggling and live off the profits of their creation. What do you think happens when a site like this goes up? When Scanlation Teams do new releases? People Buy less anime, less manga. Sure they gain more fans, but they can live off that. I dont agree with the bills, however you all do need to understand how it got to this point and why. Its not without reason. I work in the game industry, the amount of games that end up pirated is sickening.

People pour their hearts, souls, and time into this stuff and others would rather steal it out right than help the developers and producers (that doesnt apply to everyone, I understand that certain content is not available in certain areas.). I love this site, I do. However many of you need the reality check of seeing this from all sides, and not just the one. Just look back, remember that group of Manga-Ka that got together and pulled law suits? Ever wonder what happened to OneManga.com? How MangaFox was also in the crosshairs? This was only the next step guys. Remember, looking at a situation from only one side makes you ignorant of many facts that make up that situation. /realitycheck

I know some if not many of you will disagree but this is the truth and you know it. Continue the fight PIPA.

I agree with part of what you said, "BUT" you do know they had a choice to work as a anime artist or not. Like for me I am a animator. We dont get paid a lot but when a we make a movie and its turns out to be the best. We make a lot of cash of the back. Then there are the parts where we get paid for just showing up. So, I am happy that they made the animes and stuff. They do get paid low or when they have a good anime or something they get paid great. Its 50/50. We do know that the site is taken the anime when we should be going to the main site to pay and watch it, but we dont because its free and easier to do so. We have pride in the anime creators, because they make great shows. so people cosplay or etc and sopa... should not be law it should just die um...sorry if that makes no clue

silverylook
01-19-2012, 01:16 PM
Yay! Thats at least one of the 3 down! Senators can always be relied upon to cover their ass, its the ones on their last term that I'm afraid of, they don't need public approval anymore.

UrzuZero
01-19-2012, 01:30 PM
I agree with part of what you said, "BUT" you do know they had a choice to work as a anime artist or not. Like for me I am a animator. We dont get paid a lot but when a we make a movie and its turns out to be the best. We make a lot of cash of the back. Then there are the parts where we get paid for just showing up. So, I am happy that they made the animes and stuff. They do get paid low or when they have a good anime or something they get paid great. Its 50/50. We do know that the site is taken the anime when we should be going to the main site to pay and watch it, but we dont because its free and easier to do so. We have pride in the anime creators, because they make great shows. so people cosplay or etc and sopa... should not be law it should just die um...
sorry if that makes no clue


I am pretty sure everyone here looks at it from both sides, considering we're all pirates on this fourms(streaming anime ftw!)

We all know that the people making the product gets scammed whenever we watch/listen,etc without paying for it, like watching anime/reading manga.

However those are fairly restricted, like i am not able to watch anime in my country without buying a DVD not knowing what the series is about, i mean sure i can read reviews from other people, watch a commercial but it really never gives an good first impression.

If its somthing i like then i will buy it for supporting the creator, for example when skyrim and saints row the third came out i was broke, and still waiting for payment, however being lazy me i pirated it. And when my money came flowing in i bought both games, Same goes for music, if theres an artist/band that i like and films.

Also keep in mind that most people pirating dont have an access to the product or their simply in there for the checking(streaming anime, reading manga on sites,watch films, or their simply just pirates


Dont get me wrong, I'm just as guilty as anyone else lol, and I want this to die just as much @__@

eddy511
01-19-2012, 03:21 PM
I live in the US and from what I've seen we got big companies like google,twitter,wikipedia and a lot more who are against the laws being passed so it wont pass so easily. Also with yesterdays blank outs you already see a big change with how many senators switch to the opposing side.

Kumo no Yoru
01-19-2012, 03:41 PM
Wooo! Hopefully those two bills never get passed. They are beyond useless. Thanks for the update!!!

Omikaru
01-19-2012, 03:55 PM
I'm against it purely because it's the only domain that I know of that is true freedom. No government douchebags (yes that is what I'm calling them, they never do anything right except for screwing things up.) telling us what we can and can't do. At best, we share information, voice our opinions and not worry about someone arresting us simply because we state the truth. Although on one impact that there be trolls, pedophiles and well.. just terrible people out there, but that's just the tip of the iceberg.

At the same time, I can see how it got to be a mess, because we (as the internet folk) are so technically advanced, that we lost control of comes in and out and as these two crudely framed AXTS (It's Acts with an X, like an axe cutting something.) SOPA and PIPA or other relatives of these two appear, it was bound to bite us in the ass sooner or later. Safe to say, it was something that even I was expecting to happen, just never knew when.

But even as we got so technically advanced, you could say we had a firmer grasp of what the in and out flows were doing. Such as newer formats and formed a somewhat 'crime-stopper' lookout via community. We gained some sense, but it's not enough to convince that it's safe once more. There's still so much crime and only so much to do about it.

With that in mind, I tend to view the bills as people who think they can tell me what I can and can't have in my house. They don't live in my house, they don't tell me squat on how to live and how to be. With that said, I'm going to continue the opposition.

Revelix
01-19-2012, 04:24 PM
Hopefully if it continues like this the SOPA, PIPA etc problems won't get passed.

aropruett
01-19-2012, 04:43 PM
Dont get me wrong, I'm just as guilty as anyone else lol, and I want this to die just as much @__@

Nor will I. I truly dont want this site to be closed down.

Deragons
01-19-2012, 04:59 PM
US federal govt just shut down megaupload.com!! What are we going to use as a secondary upload site? :(((

Juuri
01-19-2012, 05:39 PM
$&*^%*&## American Senate Idiots who's country is democratic who wants to remove the freedom in using internet %#%$#&

Actually in the constitution of US its a Republiek the only thing that makes them a bit Demo is the way the elect their leaders.

Juuri
01-19-2012, 06:12 PM
Guys should read this.

http://gizmodo.com/5877679/anonymous-kills-department-of-justice-site-in-megaupload-revenge-strike/

Suffle
01-19-2012, 06:21 PM
US federal govt just shut down megaupload.com!! What are we going to use as a secondary upload site? :(((


:donwan::donwan: no moar anime update for a short amount of time i guess:touched:

s3cr3tb0y12
01-19-2012, 06:25 PM
OMG , this thing really affected the global world =.=
First I wasn't aware of this...
Just noticed things and sites that I can't open yesterday..
Then I heard many people talking about this...
Then indeed its the reason =.=

Monkill
01-19-2012, 06:44 PM
Nooooo
Sopa need to be stoped!!!!!! OS cant end like this!!!!!
If we cant protect all anime episodes, Let's protect our legal patrimony! Just to say All hail OS for much years!!!!

Liberator
01-19-2012, 06:57 PM
this whole thing is ridiculous, yet if everything was affordable and not priced at the level to gouge out your wallet piracy wouldn't be an issue. Not to mention hollywood shouldn't have any room to speak, they spend more in a day than we make in 10 years -_-

dothacked
01-19-2012, 07:08 PM
Noo!! Yesterday megaupload.com got screwed! the site totally got shut down. I guess its only a matter of time before other sites gets targeted as well. Let's hope the movements against those acts become successful and we must also give them our support.

Monkill
01-19-2012, 07:26 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly02ysvmX21r213rzo1_400.gif

Pikashu evolves to super sayajim level 3! Now, go against SOPA!!!

http://sp6.fotolog.com/photo/54/6/98/satakan/1221253312122_f.jpg

I dont want to mean pessimist, but If Pikashu couldn't fight against SOPA, what in the world can stop the USA senators?

Viletomb2010
01-19-2012, 08:46 PM
Cursed those people who support that law...

deonleosen
01-19-2012, 09:14 PM
"Recording Industry Association of America—Department of Justice—Universal Music—all TT, all TANGO DOWN," Anonymous tweeted this evening with the #OpMegaUpload hashtag.

Homura
01-19-2012, 09:14 PM
its good that its been opposed.

Liberator
01-19-2012, 09:18 PM
yet, what will be the eventual fallout, there WILL be a reaction from the gov't and I doubt it will be the one preferred
Remembers newtons law of "for every action there is an equal and or opposite reaction?"
this will not end well, if anything this will push senators to PASS the SOPA bill.

dexter453
01-19-2012, 09:55 PM
this is really bad...I think this was made by people who doesn't know how to use the net...XD

BrokenAngel
01-19-2012, 10:15 PM
Hopefully this doesn't pass :( at least more are opposing... still not in the clear yet though :/

driftangle
01-19-2012, 10:16 PM
I signed and everyone i know as well................. support the cause for our freedom and futures https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

Unknown
01-19-2012, 10:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzS5rSvZXe8

kimono031
01-19-2012, 11:20 PM
SOPA/PIPA is most likely not going to pass. Many members of congress withdrew their support, and everyone running for president does not support the bills (of course, they want to get elected haha).


At the beginning of Janaury 18th, there were 80 members of congress who supported the legislation, and 31 opponents. Now, just 63 support SOPA-PIPA, and opposition has surged to 122, according to ProPublica.

-TechCrunch
---
Now as for Megaupload... Well, they were pretty much the most popular site on the web to upload and share pirated goods. Megaupload says they are not pirates, and that they only provide "shipping services" to us pirates. Well that "shipping service" has amounted to A LOT of money haha.


...the site earned more than $175 million since its founding in 2005, most of it based on copyright infringement.


As for the site's employees, they were paid lavishly and they spent lavishly. Even the graphic designer, 35-year-old Slovakian resident Julius Bencko, made more than $1 million in 2010 alone.


The indictment goes after six individuals, who between them owned 14 Mercedes-Benz automobiles with license plates such as "POLICE," "MAFIA," "V," "STONED," "CEO," "HACKER," GOOD," "EVIL," and—perhaps presciently—"GUILTY." The group also had a 2010 Maserati, a 2008 Rolls-Royce, and a 1989 Lamborghini. They had not one but three Samsung 83" TVs, and two Sharp 108" TVs. Someone owned a "Predator statue." Motor bikes, jet skis, artwork, and even 60 Dell servers could all be forfeit to the government if it can prove its case against the members of the "Mega Conspiracy."

-arstechnica

chellsiekate
01-20-2012, 12:06 AM
this is unfair!why they are doing this to us?:donwan:

DacKeith
01-20-2012, 01:05 AM
Well I think most of the senators would just want to switch side because it is more popular then change back later when it is all forgotten by the people. The SOPA/PIPA continues so we should really keep our eye on the SOPA and PIPA

dab117
01-20-2012, 01:36 AM
Problem solving.
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/1951427_700b.jpg

cleomarie
01-20-2012, 02:14 AM
Those 3 bills are just so ridiculous. Yes, they should end piracy but they should not take away our freedom. The internet is for everyone and there's no single person or entity who owns it and so restricting and controlling websites is clearly unjustifiable!

kimono031
01-20-2012, 02:28 AM
Those 3 bills are just so ridiculous. Yes, they should end piracy but they should not take away our freedom. The internet is for everyone and there's no single person or entity who owns it and so restricting and controlling websites is clearly unjustifiable!

But the thing is it is pretty much impossible to remove piracy and copy right infringement from the internet and still maintain the freedom we have.

The only thing we can do to support the media industry is to buy their merchandise. When you stumble upon media on the internet and then download it for free through piracy/file sharing sites, one of two things can happen: you like it, or you don't like it. If you like it enough and would like for that company to keep updating or making whatever it is, then buy their product. If not, then don't buy it. It is as simple as that.

Naruhina101
01-20-2012, 03:12 AM
yes good news!! Please stop SOPA and PIPA!!

kimnoa
01-20-2012, 03:50 AM
Maybe one of the big business man in entertainment industry paid off this couple of senator to pass this bill. And of course the senators are indebted to them for their support on the previous or incoming election. Damn..

kimnoa
01-20-2012, 03:57 AM
Maybe we should boycott those media industry that support this act,,,

Liesianthes
01-20-2012, 05:04 AM
bad news.. Megaupload, one of the best downloading sites here in the net has just shutdown for "international organized criminal enterprise allegedly responsible for massive worldwide online piracy" like they're saying.. BB megaupload :(

nataku411
01-20-2012, 05:18 AM
I wonder how users will react if any of these bills come to pass.

darkheart005
01-20-2012, 05:20 AM
Hooray for the anihilation of SOPA & PIPA!!!!!

askbel
01-20-2012, 05:20 AM
SOPA IS SHIT !! I'm totally against it. and I will never ever ever support it. !!!!


LONG LIVE INTERNET ! :=D:

Aikawa
01-20-2012, 05:25 AM
For now were safe!! but we don"t know what will happen in the future

|And thanks to the good news for now

Aikawa
01-20-2012, 06:07 AM
i have a solution here


http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQD2r2rX7FSU4Mrh&w=90&h=90&url=http%3A%2F%2Fd24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net%2Fp hoto%2F1947368_220x145.jpg

Aikawa
01-20-2012, 06:08 AM
and also here http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/1951427_460s.jpg

lon3lyh3art
01-20-2012, 06:16 AM
Well I guess if this bill get's passed, a lot of Americans are gonna be migrating~ then bomb America :L

ranmachua
01-20-2012, 06:53 AM
Oh God!!!! Megaupload has been shut down!!!!!!!!!!! F*CK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jeffnat19
01-20-2012, 06:55 AM
that's just small, but will open for a big change.

down to SOPA, PIPA & ACTA.

internet is free and forever will it be free.

lastshin
01-20-2012, 07:23 AM
I believe its in Europe, the Netherlands?
http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/otaku-streamers.com
Either way, if the bill is passed, your ISP will be required to block the domain if you are in the US even if they can't take it down.
Which means you will need a proxy to view OS.

I suspect that if this bill is passed then people will start depending on proxy networks which will lead to people discovering far worse illegal activities...
Once proxy networks become mainstream the moral level of america is going to drop like a brick


if that is the case then the effect of what they are doing is so much worse than it already is.... @_@

henryv
01-20-2012, 08:28 AM
I do support its move against piracy but the bill itself is vague that it can destroy most websites there is. The end does not justify the means in this case.

suciumarian
01-20-2012, 08:50 AM
i'm sorry to say that i'm not this much in to the politics .....but the goverment well seems that not just in europe or small countrys but all over the worls are trying to find more and more ways to control the people (hope i don't seem crazy :)) ) , but for real over taxes laws that are only makeing more damage than help , and they start too atack the internet too , hmm well if they can put theris hands on internet too , well that is more than sad ....hope that all it will be ok , and i would like to tell me where i cand infom myself more about this problem and how can ai do something , i would not like that Otaku-Streamers or anyother usefull site go down :)

pearairplane
01-20-2012, 09:35 AM
i am ashamed to be american

DacKeith
01-20-2012, 11:07 AM
Apparently mega upload has a new site but still not fully working and currently on the way to be working
Heres the link:http://109.236.83.66/

katzuragi
01-20-2012, 12:35 PM
yeah when will the result be announce ????

quadcored
01-20-2012, 12:40 PM
They can mess with our taxes, our educational systems, go corrupt down to hell



But do not dare touch the internet.

triniman15
01-20-2012, 12:58 PM
I can't believed they want to control people freedom of speech, internet is part of our freedom of speech

88ayanami
01-20-2012, 02:38 PM
another stupid bill they create and it can affect many users around the world and specially the people who works using the internet curse the creator of this bill

eddy511
01-20-2012, 02:44 PM
yeah when will the result be announce ????

The 24th of this month

menupo
01-20-2012, 03:40 PM
SOPA and PIPA is DEAD yeaahhh

UrzuZero
01-20-2012, 04:16 PM
The 24th of this month

That date has been dropped, its over. (For now)

Reizero
01-20-2012, 04:20 PM
R.I.P. Megaupload and Megavideo

nodame10
01-20-2012, 05:45 PM
It was really an honor downloading from you, MEGAUPLOAD, :gsg7:

May you find another path in the afterlife,:gsg16:

We will miss you, :gsg51:

aropruett
01-20-2012, 05:48 PM
i am ashamed to be american

I am too but i dont blame us i blame the gov.. per.. and etc people who make the laws =-=

aropruett
01-20-2012, 05:53 PM
Lucky SOPA is out ^^ XD but not other 2 :/ it stoped going on the 18 of this mouth

Acelancer
01-20-2012, 05:54 PM
Funny. The Senate is mostly supporting it mostly because of the music industry, such as Sony. They just want more money even when they already making a lot more by using the internet.
When the news ask about the SOPA and PIPA to the Senate, they didn't even know much about it beside the fact that it steals things and this bill will make it stop. Once they read fully about it, they stop supporting the bill. Most of the Senate doesn't even know what is the internet or use the computer. Most of the people who are supporting this bill are mostly the republican.
Even if it did get pass, who will be paying the protection IP. that will be us, the people who pay the taxes. We will pay the government to block the sites that we want to go to. We're already in the down in hell, why make it even worst =/

When i was readin one of the post about something that this site is pretty much stealing. I'm not really sure it is mostly stealing, mayb 100% or even 0%?
As far as i know, i never see any ads or anime selling in this site. They themselves pay for the site rather then asking ads to help.
Example, If your friend want to see this movie and he want to borrow the movie. You lend him the movie, and this site is pretty following those "terms". It is not stealing till we sell it to make a profit.

aropruett
01-20-2012, 06:01 PM
Even if it did get pass, who will be paying the protection IP. that will be us, the people who pay the taxes. We will pay the government to block the sites that we want to go to. We're already in the down in hell, why make it even worst =/

When i was readin one of the post about something that this site is pretty much stealing. I'm not really sure it is mostly stealing, mayb 100% or even 0%?
As far as i know, i never see any ads or anime selling in this site. They themselves pay for the site rather then asking ads to help.
Example, If your friend want to see this movie and he want to borrow the movie. You lend him the movie, and this site is pretty much doing something like that. It is not stealing till we sell it to make a profit.

I agree we have to pay it and its the same thing about us sharing the movie with a friend. The site is doing the same.^^

robin123
01-20-2012, 07:49 PM
ME heard megaupload is going to stop or something like that. Is it true???

Moonfall
01-20-2012, 09:24 PM
So those this mean we have lost?

jeffnat19
01-20-2012, 09:42 PM
MegaUpload and MegaVideo will be back. Websites like those aren't easily destroyed even if they incarcerate the makers.

THEY REMAIN. to help us have the best net experience, for our freedom.

down to SOPA, ACTA, PIPA.

blackfairy
01-20-2012, 10:18 PM
ohhh yeah.. now I can watch and download more movies and music..

Unknown
01-20-2012, 11:04 PM
Megaupload is back but they are struggling to be back on again.

109.236.83.66

gala1221
01-20-2012, 11:06 PM
FBI shutdown Megaupload, Anonymous (A group of hackers) shut down FBI website. FTW!

rebokku0011
01-20-2012, 11:18 PM
This bill is sooooooooo over-rated. I just wish more Senators oppose to this bill. Or maybe do a petition for Anti-SOPA.

teejayp
01-20-2012, 11:38 PM
The 2012 apocalypse...

So it begins. :omg:

(Well, technically it began on January 1st with that earthquake in Japan, then a natural gas explosion on the 3rd...)

nekolover
01-20-2012, 11:51 PM
Future w/ SOPA
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/1973919_460s_v1.jpg

kyou01
01-21-2012, 01:01 AM
I don't really know what the heck is wrong with the government
I don't give a S**T about them
they are stealing our money, increasing the taxes, they don't even care to the poor people needs
and now they are trying to take the internet away from us, they are stealing our freedom.

I support all the anti-SOPA, anti-ACTA and anti-PIPA

this is like a war
people vs. government
and I'll join the war to help everyone get freedom
OAO
that sounds dramatic XD

megaupload is trying to get back to business
thanks to a group of supporters known as "Anonymous", they are restarting megaupload

Winry
01-21-2012, 03:02 AM
Maybe those who made this bill are technophobic. haha! they dont know the importance of internet because they don't know how to use it. or maybe they're planning to make something worst such as invading the world and to make the things easier for them they want to tear up the worlds fastest means of communication so people wont be able to communicate with each other anymore thus making us ignorant of whats happening around us.

ranmachua
01-21-2012, 07:03 AM
It's like they're trying to cut off internet from the whole world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ganarok
01-21-2012, 07:05 AM
(With all due respect) All I can say is they are all half ass laws made by some old hags that can't think right anymore, why would they pursue this law when almost all internet users condemn these laws and even wikipedia is being affected? Can they make a similar site as Wikipedia with out being stained with their so called "Copyright Infringement" and "Internet Piracy"? Just what are they thinking while pursuing these laws? Making their own version of You and Me against the world? Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!:angry1:

p4pex33
01-21-2012, 07:33 AM
Well if this will be passed, it would be hard for me to adopt at first. Oh well there's a bigger and better life out there. Life doesn't just evolve on the internet

aznlis123
01-21-2012, 08:27 AM
This means that megaupload is gone! :cry:

hades013
01-21-2012, 08:46 AM
hmm...
so that's explains it...
oh well...
I hope things go well...

Dodex
01-21-2012, 11:57 AM
http://tech.pnosker.com/2012/01/20/sopa-and-pipa-dropped-by-congress-in-wake-of-largest-online-protest-in-history/

SOPA has been dropped for now. It's being put back to the drawing board it seems. They will probably come back with some watered down version.

Xanathos
01-21-2012, 12:05 PM
Yeah, but the fact that megaupload is out of business for now, remains. And this is completely unfair. If they want to delete material that is supposed to be piracy, they just have to contact MU and tell them so, not just close it. Hope people will convince FBI what kind of idiotic attitude they're taking.

Deamon96
01-21-2012, 02:28 PM
I've posted this on my profile, but now Everyone needs to see this. Don't skip this video. Watch the whole thing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tD1yaE0GfQ&feature=player_embedded

AzraelVega
01-21-2012, 05:00 PM
You are so absolutely right. It's all about money. One video showed that some record company was suing a single mother for 1.5 million dollars just for downloading 24 songs. What these bills are going to do is start a witch hunt. Anybody that's done anything like download/upload something....anything, now they're coming after us and expecting money or prison. And yes the US is getting all the attention, but what people fail to realize is that this will start a ripple effect that other countries watching will eventually follow and copy. Ladies and Gentlemen, these are signs that the internet as we know it is slowly dying.

ogphatkat
01-21-2012, 06:00 PM
I'm an American and I don't like this sort of garbage telling me what I can watch and what I can't.For everyone that's not an American I'm telling you this is the work of rich republicans trying to have complete control over everything so as a American it is are job to protest this bill and vote it down if you are of age.Don't let them take away your rights to view what you want on the web.

AzraelVega
01-21-2012, 07:27 PM
I am too but i dont blame us i blame the gov.. per.. and etc people who make the laws =-=
And people wonder why American's are hated in the world. Our government decides to do something like this and the entire world is watching just to mimic and copy us so that they too can do it, thus starting a domino effect, ruining lives and making the wrong people richer.

Aikawa
01-21-2012, 09:32 PM
I like the video warning us not to download but there are other sites that are safe to download.
Elimenating these sites will affect us and our hobbies I don"t know if you are a supporter of SOPA and you want this site down.
I wish SOPA will not affect us . XD

Kanami
01-22-2012, 12:12 AM
Future w/ SOPA
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/1973919_460s_v1.jpg

Dammit... I just went screaming "OLD MANNNNN!" all dramatically and reaching out. QAQ;;

co0llogo
01-22-2012, 02:09 AM
love this one the story from the top

crimson21
01-22-2012, 02:19 AM
Future w/ SOPA seems realistic in the near future

xaipotz
01-22-2012, 05:18 AM
thanks

pikel
01-22-2012, 11:18 AM
Do you think hiring Blill Clinton's lawyer will make a difference in whether or not MU will make it back?

Taggerung
01-22-2012, 01:40 PM
I'd like to put some input in here. With SOPA and PIPA encountering heavy resistance in the US it's time to focus on the global threat, ACTA. You can learn more about it on Wikipedia.

It's a treaty drafted in relative secrecy that goes steps beyond SOPA/PIPA even allowing governments to monitor our private communications. It's currently in negotiation between Australia, Canada, the European Union, Japan, Mexico, Morocco, New Zealand, the Republic of Korea, Singapore, Switzerland and the United States, and has been officially signed by United States, Australia, Canada, Japan, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, and South Korea.

For US citizens there is a petition you can sign here: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/end-acta-and-protect-our-right-privacy-internet/MwfSVNBK.

Neowildstar
01-22-2012, 06:01 PM
I really think that this about sums up everything I stand for and I'll be taking part in this particular task.

I'd like to see just how they react when they've got a massive hole in the start of their profit report.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Neowildstar/blackmarch.jpg

ZZZDaydream
01-22-2012, 09:26 PM
sopa and pipa didnt take down magaupload...the government did that with the current laws

0drea7
01-22-2012, 11:47 PM
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396132_276774879051247_228018533926882_797300_1691 367790_n.jpg

--(for those who don't know, Lamar Smith is the author of the controversial SOPA bill)
http://www.jigokutsushin.co.nr/

error345
01-23-2012, 12:34 AM
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc378/cold3455/Anonymousforvendetta.png

Juuri
01-23-2012, 04:52 PM
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc378/cold3455/Anonymousforvendetta.png

*raises hand* agreed! Fighting!

Juuri
01-23-2012, 04:59 PM
I'd like to put some input in here. With SOPA and PIPA encountering heavy resistance in the US it's time to focus on the global threat, ACTA. You can learn more about it on Wikipedia.

It's a treaty drafted in relative secrecy that goes steps beyond SOPA/PIPA even allowing governments to monitor our private communications. It's currently in negotiation between Australia, Canada, the European Union, Japan, Mexico, Morocco, New Zealand, the Republic of Korea, Singapore, Switzerland and the United States, and has been officially signed by United States, Australia, Canada, Japan, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, and South Korea.

For US citizens there is a petition you can sign here: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/end-acta-and-protect-our-right-privacy-internet/MwfSVNBK.

Oh why is it that I don't hear this in the main stream media? I just heared that Anonymous attacked the Polish Goverment cuz they are planning to sign the ACTA in Tokyo. I mean Anonymous blacked out all the gov sites and they still decided to sign the ACTA!.......

That does not look good...

Does anyone perhaps know if there is a decision between the EU?

ranmachua
01-27-2012, 06:41 AM
Even if PIPA/SOPA are delayed, seems the FBI have more powers and don't need to even wait for an act to be passed to take action. What does this tell us?

azukare
01-28-2012, 08:36 AM
government is by the people and for the people

Yeah! The wonderful and culturally saturated lessons we learned from prohibition lead to the War on Drugs--which has been almost completely ineffective, extraordinarily expensive, discriminatory, and socially regressive! Thank the lord we learned not to criminalize substances whose uses are more or less inevitable, forcing the business underground where it cannot be regulated, thus dramatically increasing the likelihood of systematic crime and violence!

I'm sure we'll learn our lesson with SOPA! Today, it's the enforcement of copyright! Tomorrow, maybe it's "hostile speech," then the next day "undesirable speech"! Soon we could have a War on Communication, effectively banning the entire internet (except where experts deem its use to be necessary, under highly controlled conditions, of course). But hey, we would have learned our lesson with SOPA and PIPA, and we'd have overturned them! Foreign piracy sites for everyone!

Prohibition was a horrible idea, as is SOPA. And yeah, more people consumed alcohol during prohibition, as will more people get around SOPA if it passes than do now (if that makes sense).

I don't really want it to pass because I think it's a lousy bill, but something like it will probably pass eventually thanks to law makers who don't understand the unintended consequences of what they are doing.

My point was more that the internet is still a baby just starting to learn to crawl within our very old running human society. We don't really know yet how to work with each other.

driftangle
02-05-2012, 12:46 AM
I'd like to put some input in here. With SOPA and PIPA encountering heavy resistance in the US it's time to focus on the global threat, ACTA. You can learn more about it on Wikipedia.

It's a treaty drafted in relative secrecy that goes steps beyond SOPA/PIPA even allowing governments to monitor our private communications. It's currently in negotiation between Australia, Canada, the European Union, Japan, Mexico, Morocco, New Zealand, the Republic of Korea, Singapore, Switzerland and the United States, and has been officially signed by United States, Australia, Canada, Japan, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, and South Korea.

For US citizens there is a petition you can sign here: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/end-acta-and-protect-our-right-privacy-internet/MwfSVNBK.


I'm in

digi0009
02-11-2012, 05:00 PM
These acts by the government don't really guarantee an end to Piracy. Piracy is at an age where its almost impossible to Stop , Even if they keep taking down sites, Piracy cannot be erased , and we should not back down to the government.
We should protest and also I think Obama will loose pretty surely by the end of this year n taking down pirated material from the net might even lessen the sales , who knows it might have more of a reverse effect and cut down sales ,Also if ACTA like acts are passed in the future , Since Japan agrees to it to and so do other developed nation , Anime's future seems bleak over the net , Just gotta but stuff then .
But the chances for that happening are low as for now , but who knows , maybe someday we just have to stick with torrents and complete P2P software that are only user based , seems like we're going in the opposite direction with internet , instead of developing more .... its being censored .

aceformat
02-27-2012, 08:22 PM
With SOPA & PIPA pretty much out of the picture, the main focus is now aimed at ACTA.

The EU has been debating the issue for months now and a new version of the ACTA can be found here (http://www.ustr.gov/webfm_send/2338) (Lots of text, so I'll do a TL;DR version soon™) But the basic facts of it are that your entire online experience will be monitored, all of it, every email, every web page, every game will be monitored by your ISP, ACTA gives your ISP and the IP holders (for instance Time Warner) the ability to gain the required evidence and then SET the appropriate penalty, be it time in prison, fines and payments for using the IP ... the courts/judges will NOT set this, Time Warner WILL!

Luckily, a very few determined European Parliament members have seen this for what it is and are starting to stand against ACTA, they have asked for more transparency and they have stated the attack on peoples rights is too much (more on this can be read here (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/13/european_parliament_president_acta/)). ACTA will be put to the vote again soon, however many of the EU countries, the UK included have already signed the initial agreement.

If all this makes you worry for the future, especially with the laws currently in place are, I feel doing more than an adequate job of stemming piracy, fear not! At a recent Hackers Conference, there has been talk of setting up a second internet, away from this current one and all it will cost is around £100 for the receiver ... that's it, however this project is still in it's fundamental stages, so completion is in the (fairly) distant future.

I for one will be moving over as soon as it becomes reality, I have been using the internet since '97 and have seen the growth and changes along the way, this isn't the internet I remember or one I hoped for, it's owned by the companies not the individuals now. I agree piracy is out of control and the courts are losing the battle however, your individual human rights will be torn down until it can be controlled! And that means martial law for the internet!

daily
03-09-2012, 08:16 PM
Karel De Gucht, the EU trade commissioner, said that taking the treaty to the European court of justice would clear the “fog of misinformation” surrounding Acta, as well as assessing the compatibility of the treaty with standing EU rights and freedom.

“This debate must be based upon facts and not upon the misinformation or rumour that has dominated social media sites and blogs in recent weeks,” De Gucht said. “Acta will not censor websites or shut them down; Acta will not hinder freedom of the internet or freedom of speech.”

The EU are "assuming" that ACTA will not harm our freedom... so they put ACTA to a debate to clear the "misinformation"... this is a "little" sign that EU are going to continue the ACTA

daily
03-09-2012, 08:19 PM
what I feared is our fredom to stream, upload and download will be stripped from us... to think that some government tried to control and monitor the internet it's totally ridiculous... it's the same as my country before the government reformation on 1990's... we are stripped from our right to receive information, television banned from airing critical news about the government, newspaper information are filtered from what information can be printed or not, radio are the same....

I can felt these feeling (the same feeling as our fellow Indonesian stripped from our right to receive information on 1990's) but on a larger scale, not about a country but the whole world information flow will be damaged...

Zen861
03-22-2012, 04:47 AM
what I feared is our fredom to stream, upload and download will be stripped from us... to think that some government tried to control and monitor the internet it's totally ridiculous... it's the same as my country before the government reformation on 1990's... we are stripped from our right to receive information, television banned from airing critical news about the government, newspaper information are filtered from what information can be printed or not, radio are the same....

I can felt these feeling (the same feeling as our fellow Indonesian stripped from our right to receive information on 1990's) but on a larger scale, not about a country but the whole world information flow will be damaged...

this world will one day turn like the movie equilibrium =/
so sopa and pipa can completely shutdown os?
sorry to break it to you guys but it wasn't passed cause it needs to be rewritten...
so if they rewrite it we're fucked...

Zen861
03-22-2012, 04:47 AM
nvm just read on here about acta...
i guess it came back already >_>

Zen861
03-22-2012, 04:51 AM
oh did more reading... ok all my questions answered
anyways, posting here cause i posted a third post by mistake and idk how to delete it

HOTDfreak
03-22-2012, 01:21 PM
Here we are...still. Sadly, everything about these bills has gone quiet. I have no idea what's going on anymore. I know that SOPA isn't active anymore, nor is PIPA, however we have other bills running at the moment that could easily take their place.

For all of my friends here who love dubstep, this video is relevant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8p_A5KrwGc

ranmachua
03-25-2012, 10:13 AM
Feels like this has gone quiet for a while. I hope it won't come back and cause us another heart attack